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  • The Big Dunn
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    #71
    The Matchroom Sport chairman said: "Anthony Joshua calls the shots."He has a choice. I think his preference is Alexander Povetkin for his mandatory, Jarrell Miller is in the top five, and Deontay Wilder."They're his three main choices and I expect him to make his mind up in the next seven to 10 days. He's a smart young man and the final decision is always made by him."
    This is the same thing many of us have been saying. If the fight doesn't happen next, it's because AJ decided he wanted the easy money defenses instead of the glory of being unified HWT champ.

    Why can't his fans and the Brits just admit this??

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      #72
      Originally posted by BreakingBox
      Exactly! If Hearn believed he called Wilder's bluff, then why on Earth would he draft up a "new and improved" offer for Wilder? It's like you said, it's all about controlling the money and the fight.
      You CANT use the same negotiating point if it wasnt accepted the first time , you need to make a NEW counter offer .

      How do you think deals get made if both parties dont readjust the stipulations ?

      Do you think they keep passing the same rejected deal back and forth to try and come to an agreement ? lol

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      • BreakingBox
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        #73
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        You CANT use the same negotiating point if it wasnt accepted the first time , you need to make a counter offer .

        How do you think deals get made if both parties dont readjust the stipulations ?

        Do you think they keep passing the same rejected deal back and forth to try and come to an agreement ? lol
        You can't counteroffer yourself

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          #74
          If we are going to keep seeing buying a house/car analogy then atleast do it right.
          You walk along the street and see a house you like the look of and go to knock on the door, before you even get in the garden someone comes running out and says the house costs 50mil, you cant see inside and you have 24 hours to decide and im not willing to discuss this further until you give me a straight YES or NO. Oh and just so you know if you do say YES then that is possibly a legally binding verbal agreement and if you dont go through with buying the house after you seen inside then i will sue you!

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            #75
            Originally posted by BreakingBox
            You can't counteroffer yourself
            They are counter offering Wilder .

            How are they counter offering themselves ?

            Jesus christ you guys are ******ed .

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              #76
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              This is the same thing many of us have been saying. If the fight doesn't happen next, it's because AJ decided he wanted the easy money defenses instead of the glory of being unified HWT champ.

              Why can't his fans and the Brits just admit this??
              Joshua IS the unified champion .


              If he doesnt take the money it is because a certain somebody rejected any negotiation discussions !

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                #77
                Originally posted by juggernaut666
                Joshua IS the unified champion .


                If he doesnt take the money it is because a certain somebody rejected any negotiation discussions !
                Look, I get why you are running with this but it doesn't hold water. There are 2 types of offers; the kind you can't refuse and the kind you can't take.

                If AJ was serious about fighting Wilder, he'd make a deal that Wilder couldn't refuse rather than make an offer that is less than what Parker made and one no manager/adviser could legitimately tell their client to take.

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                • BreakingBox
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666
                  They are counter offering Wilder .

                  How are they counter offering themselves ?

                  Jesus christ you guys are ******ed .
                  So, by saying that, you are acknowledging that Wilder's offer was "real" and Hearn doesn't want to "lose control of the fight." Therefore, Hearn is sending Wilder a new and improved offer. Remember when Hearn stated that Wilder would never receive a purse split, or anything higher than the 12.5 million flat fee offer. This so called "fake" offer from Team Wilder somehow has Hearn going back to the drawing board.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Look, I get why you are running with this but it doesn't hold water. There are 2 types of offers; the kind you can't refuse and the kind you can't take.

                    If AJ was serious about fighting Wilder, he'd make a deal that Wilder couldn't refuse rather than make an offer that is less than what Parker made and one no manager/adviser could legitimately tell their client to take.
                    If Wilder accepted the 12.5 instead of his usual 1.4 Million paydays we would have had a fight signed so who are the actual fools ?

                    The fans that want to see the fight ?

                    OR

                    The fans that became Wilder accountants ?


                    A money agreement is not made over Emailing its made in meetings where paper work is looked over . If it is agreed to , then a Money agreement is made and contracts are negotiated in an ACTUAL meeting not through Emails which is ridiculous.


                    Its kind of hard to do that when Hearn is denied all these things isnt it ?

                    Team Wilder did nothing but delay the fight , if he won under Hearns deal he makes 35 million minimal with the rematch claus ......


                    So yea Wilder must not think he can win right since hes taking a pay cut in his deal ?


                    Joshua can make 50 Million in almost 2 fights now ,.

                    What exactly is he running from and why cant he refuse this deal when an agreement then takes control away from the side whos generating the money ? lol


                    And wouldn't the guy thats making closer to ONE million a fight on average be the one running ?

                    From a POTENTIAL 35 Million deal through Hearns proposal ?


                    Sorry but this discussion over who should take what is nonsensical bc its clearly Wilder .
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 05-01-2018, 08:58 AM.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by BreakingBox
                      So, by saying that, you are acknowledging that Wilder's offer was "real" and Hearn doesn't want to "lose control of the fight." Therefore, Hearn is sending Wilder a new and improved offer. Remember when Hearn stated that Wilder would never receive a purse split, or anything higher than the 12.5 million flat fee offer. This so called "fake" offer from Team Wilder somehow has Hearn going back to the drawing board.
                      Both offers were real ,unless you think you are watching a t.v show ?

                      It doesn't matter what Hearn said .

                      If he doesnt counter offer then negotiations stop.

                      And no fight .

                      Arent you the cry babies of wanting to see this fight and not complain about money ?

                      You have to go back to the drawing board thats how negotiating works .

                      They just dont stand in the same place .


                      You dont know what your talking about ,not even one bit .
                      Last edited by juggernaut666; 05-01-2018, 09:08 AM.

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