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  • BoxingIsGreat
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    #61
    Originally posted by SniXSniPe
    We can argue about it all day, but the majority of viewers say Golovkin won the fight against Canelo. We all know you would never admit that, though. You watched the fight with a biased lens (i.e., you WANT Golovkin to lose so you watch the fight with that lens).

    What Hall of Fame fighter, P4P Fighter, or ATG's has:

    -Crawford, Usyk (actually do you even rate him as a P4P top 10 fighter?), Errol Spence Jr., Mikey Garcia, etc.

    Beaten?
    I rate all the guys in this group, with Usyk close to the top. I don't rate GGG as a top 10 P4P, however. He neither has the skills nor the resume to belong on such a list.

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    • UNBIASED BOXING
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      #62
      Originally posted by larryxxx..
      GGG got outboxed by Canelo simple and plain he did not win.... Crawford has beaten 0 p4p fighters but he also is not 35-36 and is in his 3rd division after being lineal in 2 of them

      Mikey is a 4 division champ and Spence is just starting his path......What was the point of even bringing them up?
      You keep claiming he, "got outboxed", yet, why do you think the majority of fans and boxing related individuals all said they had Golovkin winning? Have you ever thought that you might be biased and/or wrong? You think guys like Lennox Lewis are biased against Canelo or something, or that the more popular fighter (Canelo), is going to have more people against him when he wins (look at Floyd vs Pacquiao, I'd say Floyd was the more disliked fighter and the majority still admitted he won). You can keep claiming "Canelo won", but it doesn't change the fact that again: most people thought otherwise, including boxers/coaches/etc.


      The point was: they have been professional boxers just as long as Golovkin, except maybe Spence and Usyk. Not just that, but they are also American, and so of course, they have it more easy to build a career in America.

      Golovkin - 12 years
      Crawford - 10 years
      Mikey G - 12 years

      Why are you trying to act like moving weight classes is a substitute for your criteria? Here you are moving the goal posts, none of these guys have any HOF or P4P wins on their record. Moving up in weight classes because you're a young adult growing into a full bodied man isn't an acceptable substitute for HOF or P4P wins.

      Golovkin got screwed. He signed with a ****ty company that held him back and would never let him chase after their cash crop (Felix Sturm). He went professional at a somewhat late pace. He had every odd against him, but still shined even though it was in his late 20's/early 30s. Now he's getting good fights, despite being past his prime, and he's still doing quite well.


      Nobody is claiming he's the greatest middlweight of all time, or even a top 50 all-time great or whatever. Maybe a few posters/trolls, but he is the best middleweight for his time, and certainly a good fighter people like you refuse to give credit to and instead, badger ever single blemish you can find.
      Last edited by UNBIASED BOXING; 04-30-2018, 09:05 AM.

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      • Madison Boxing
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        #63
        Originally posted by larryxxx..
        You seems to want all the racists who slam blacks unbanned..but get mad and call people racist when they tell the truth on GGG...

        1-Name 1 hall of fame fighter he had beaten

        2-Name all the p4p fighters he has beaten

        3-What ATG'S has he beaten??


        WHY SHOULD HE BE PRAISED FOR BEATING UP C AND B level fighters?
        it goes past the point of him 'not being praised' its your community who've been attacking him every day since ive been on the damn forum and now yovue all got your knickers in a twist over a poster yet noone attacks jaobs for it. just be honest golovkin makes you and others incredibly insecure for some reason, its a bizarre hate campaign by some twisted posters.

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        • Larry the boss
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          #64
          Originally posted by DramaShow
          it goes past the point of him 'not being praised' its your community who've been attacking him every day since ive been on the damn forum and now yovue all got your knickers in a twist over a poster yet noone attacks jaobs for it. just be honest golovkin makes you and others incredibly insecure for some reason, its a bizarre hate campaign by some twisted posters.
          I have said nothing about GGG poster period why include me?

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          • Blackclouds
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            #65
            Golovkin has a history of ducking and cherry picking and he has ran out of credibility. There's no hatred towards him. He's just a fraud.

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            • TonyGe
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              #66
              Originally posted by SniXSniPe
              You keep claiming he, "got outboxed", yet, why do you think the majority of fans and boxing related individuals all said they had Golovkin winning? Have you ever thought that you might be biased and/or wrong? You think guys like Lennox Lewis are biased against Canelo or something, or that the more popular fighter (Canelo), is going to have more people against him when he wins (look at Floyd vs Pacquiao, I'd say Floyd was the more disliked fighter and the majority still admitted he won). You can keep claiming "Canelo won", but it doesn't change the fact that again: most people thought otherwise, including boxers/coaches/etc.


              The point was: they have been professional boxers just as long as Golovkin, except maybe Spence and Usyk. Not just that, but they are also American, and so of course, they have it more easy to build a career in America.

              Golovkin - 12 years
              Crawford - 10 years
              Mikey G - 12 years

              Why are you trying to act like moving weight classes is a substitute for your criteria? Here you are moving the goal posts, none of these guys have any HOF or P4P wins on their record. Moving up in weight classes because you're a young adult growing into a full bodied man isn't an acceptable substitute for HOF or P4P wins.

              Golovkin got screwed. He signed with a ****ty company that held him back and would never let him chase after their cash crop (Felix Sturm). He went professional at a somewhat late pace. He had every odd against him, but still shined even though it was in his late 20's/early 30s. Now he's getting good fights, despite being past his prime, and he's still doing quite well.


              Nobody is claiming he's the greatest middlweight of all time, or even a top 50 all-time great or whatever. Maybe a few posters/trolls, but he is the best middleweight for his time, and certainly a good fighter people like you refuse to give credit to and instead, badger ever single blemish you can find.
              Well said.........

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              • AKAcronym
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                #67
                Originally posted by Blackclouds
                Golovkin has a history of ducking and cherry picking and he has ran out of credibility. There's no hatred towards him. He's just a fraud.
                What history do you speak of?

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                • Blackclouds
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by AKAcronym
                  What history do you speak of?
                  Ducked Andre Ward, Ducking Charlo and Derevyanchenko and is instead fighting a junior middleweight. People are hip to the fraud, now that he has competition he doesn't want to fight them.

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                  • stealthradon
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Blackclouds
                    Ducked Andre Ward, Ducking Charlo and Derevyanchenko and is instead fighting a junior middleweight. People are hip to the fraud, now that he has competition he doesn't want to fight them.
                    Lol, Ward ducked GGG.
                    How the hell is he ducking Charlo and Derev?
                    They weren't there 3 months ago, how the hell can he be ducking them now?

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