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  • BillyBoxing
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    #31
    Originally posted by Cutthroat
    Sulecki got hurt multiple times in his fight at 154 vs Culcay, he almost got dropped at one point too. Sulecki isn't that bad but he just has 0 power, Williams & Charlo both looked much better vs Centeno as well.



    Sulecki ain't nothing special, he's not better than Ramirez, Benavidez, Eubank Jr., Groves, Saunders, both Charlo brothers, Canelo, Skoglund, Smith, Hurd, Saunders, etc. even 39 year old Jurgen Braehmer would beat Sulecki.

    Jacobs is very very very inaccurate and he had major trouble against Sulecki's size, he sounded surprised early on saying "he's a tall guy" to his trainer. He had trouble closing the distance with his jab and instead went for 1 shot at a time. Sulecki also managed to eat clean shots when they did land aside of the 12th, Culcay was rocking him more often.
    1. First I never said Sulecki was a special fighter. He's a very good top 10 ranked contender.
    Jacobs stopped guys like Truax (168 champ) and Quillin. Sule cames up from 154 and gave him a tough fight, the guy deserves props.

    Sulecki methodically beat down Centeno, never lost a round, he's a smart fighter, like you said he just lack power, otherwise he would have stopped him earlier.

    I disagree with J ROCK looking better than Sulecki vs Centeno.
    Starting with the fact that Sulecki did a clean job and got the win while J ROCK went in a war and had a NC because he again had a clash of head.

    Due to his chin quality and size, I would favor Sule vs J Rock winning by UD. If J Rock can beat a guy like Culcay remains to be seen.

    2. You seem to act like Sulecki is on Jacobs level.

    He lost, I'm OK with a 6-6 card some guys are branding here just because Sulecki would lose either.

    If you have Sulecki winning then you're a piece of sht period
    Jacobs won 8-4 IMO + a KD wich is a 116-111 card in my book.

    At the end of the day, Jacobs grabbed a solid win while Charlo beat up an already koed twice C fighter.

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    • Cutthroat
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      #32
      Originally posted by stealthradon
      No, he got the decision against Smith, Smith outworked him.

      Valera who got the biggest gift against Kashtanov?

      Shabs was so close to stopping the weak Barrera and was ahead on all scorecards

      The Murat who was knocked out cold by Cleverly with only 50% KOs? The same Murat who twice got gift decisions against Campillo? Murat was knocked down by Mock, who has no punching power.
      Barrera won a clear UD against Smith, there was no controversy.

      Barrera beat Valera & Murat easily. Murat-Cleverly was a typical UK stoppage, he was never out. Murat-Hopkins was a competitive fight, Barrera-Murat was not really competitive, same with Cleverly. Hopkins-Pascal were both top guys at 168 & they struggled mightily even vs the non-champions.

      Barrera separated himself against Murat, Murat-Hopkins was much more competitive. This is 175 we're talking about, Ward moved a division up.

      175 is loaded with punchers, 160 on the other hand not so much. The #1 puncher ggg couldn't even phase Canelo while Jacobs is coming off 2 decision wins.

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      • stealthradon
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        #33
        Originally posted by Cutthroat
        Fight on Youtube, the comment section is overwhelmingly in support of Sulecki


        As of 10:22 local time here..
        78 comments.
        Only counting non-replies, because I am lazy.

        So your overwhelming support:
        1 Jacobs 👎👎👎 Sulecki 👍👍👍👍👍👍

        2 Lose Jacobs

        3 Should be 114-113 for Maciej Sulecki

        4 American Robbers. . shame for boxing

        5 aMERICAN ROBBERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        6 Loosee jacobs !!!!

        7 I had Sulecki up by 2 rounds, those score cards were atrocious...

        8 Jacob ate leather all night. N still was behind on the scoreboard despite his 12rnd knockdown. Don't be fool . Daniel u lost that fight to a better fighter admit accept it. Was close but u we're down on the scoreboard.
        more home cooking..

        9 Those scorecards are hilarious . Sulecki was punching almost whole round , and Jacobs wins by throwing 1 power punch . Please.... Scorecards changes tactics in team ....
        I think Sulecki was robbed .

        10 Sulecki won the fight come on!!!! It is very clear!!

        10 comments agreeing.

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        1 Score cards were disgraceful. if not that knock down it should have been pointed a win for Sulecki ( yes, im from Poland but it doesnt mean i cant see things clearly )

        2 Man that was really close fight, I agree with the win of Jacobs, but it was waaaay closer than they seem to believe.

        3 Jacobs win that, but it was close fight. And like 6 rnd win for Sulęcki, this guy with funny voice gave it to Jacobs? Landed so much for Jacobs? They must count him shots taken on block... In my opinion was 7 rnd + ko for Jacobs to 5 rnds for Sulęcki. 115 to 112.

        4 This is just as close as ggg vs Jacobs except this time Jacobs won

        5 I had it 1 point Jacobs but could also have been 1 point sulecki. Definitely was closer than judges and commentators had it.

        6 I apologised for all the deluded Poles here, the fight was 8-4 for Jacobs + a knockdown

        7 I feel like Jacobs won the fight through accuracy. No shade on Sulencki, the man came with exceptional fight. I don't think he was outboxed at all. But anyways that's the thing about great fights: they leave us divided.

        8 To all the sore polish fans. Jacobs landed the harder more effective punches. He even knocked your man down. Your boy just lost.

        8 thinks Jacobs won.

        So your overwhelming support is 10 to 8? WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

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        • stealthradon
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          #34
          Originally posted by Cutthroat
          Barrera won a clear UD against Smith, there was no controversy.

          Barrera beat Valera & Murat easily. Murat-Cleverly was a typical UK stoppage, he was never out. Murat-Hopkins was a competitive fight, Barrera-Murat was not really competitive, same with Cleverly. Hopkins-Pascal were both top guys at 168 & they struggled mightily even vs the non-champions.

          Barrera separated himself against Murat, Murat-Hopkins was much more competitive. This is 175 we're talking about, Ward moved a division up.

          175 is loaded with punchers, 160 on the other hand not so much. The #1 puncher ggg couldn't even phase Canelo while Jacobs is coming off 2 decision wins.
          Yeah, no punchers in 160. You are right.
          Only 33 out of 37
          Only 21 out of 27
          Only 29 out of 34

          Absolutely nothing.

          And fúckboi, yes you, GGG defeated Jacobs with UD, you utter fúcking idiot. It's not easy cherry picking your results, is it, without looking like an utter utter twatwaffle, because you are one hypocritical little bítch.

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          • Shrap
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            #35
            Originally posted by Cutthroat
            Sulecki arguably won tonight, could've easily been scored a draw as well. If Sulecki didn't have just a 35% KO ratio he would've KO'd him.
            You seriously don't know **** about boxing. To start with, and your biggest rookie mistake - it couldn't have been a draw because of the KD.

            Sulecki walked away from the 12th round knowing he'd lost, didn't even try to raise his hand. His whole corner showed the same body language.

            When the decision was announced Sulecki clapped for Jacobs.

            Jacobs outlanded him, dropped him, landed cleaner and harder and had the confidence and control for the majority of the fight.

            Sulecki gave a good account of himself and stayed competitive but he was outclassed and beaten, as he himself admitted.
            Last edited by Shrap; 04-29-2018, 03:42 AM.

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            • Madison Boxing
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              #36
              what about crawfords opponents? indongo stopped early by a novice, diaz just lost to a bum, postol went life and death with a complete nobody, gamboa beaten by a bum. all beaten by fighters far worse than sulecki

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              • Cutthroat
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                #37
                Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                1. First I never said Sulecki was a special fighter. He's a very good top 10 ranked contender.
                Jacobs stopped guys like Truax (168 champ) and Quillin. Sule cames up from 154 and gave him a tough fight, the guy deserves props.

                Sulecki methodically beat down Centeno, never lost a round, he's a smart fighter, like you said he just lack power, otherwise he would have stopped him earlier.

                I disagree with J ROCK looking better than Sulecki vs Centeno.
                Starting with the fact that Sulecki did a clean job and got the win while J ROCK went in a war and had a NC because he again had a clash of head.

                Due to his chin quality and size, I would favor Sule vs J Rock winning by UD. If J Rock can beat a guy like Culcay remains to be seen.

                2. You seem to act like Sulecki is on Jacobs level.

                He lost, I'm OK with a 6-6 card some guys are branding here just because Sulecki would lose either.

                If you have Sulecki winning then you're a piece of sht period
                Jacobs won 8-4 IMO + a KD wich is a 116-111 card in my book.

                At the end of the day, Jacobs grabbed a solid win while Charlo beat up an already koed twice C fighter.
                I scored the fight by 1-2 rounds for Sulecki, it was close, even when DJ knocked him down Sulecki came back strong. DJ hit Sulecki with a lot of punches & he took them very well

                Truax is easy picking as is Degale. Truax was already KO'd in 1 by Dirrell while Jack wrecked what was left of Degale. Multiple guys coming for their title. Benavidez, Groves, Ramirez, Uzcategui, these are some big, skilled, powerful dudes it's an underrated division, think about how small DJ would be. Sulecki's size gave him loads of trouble.

                Quillin was shot at 160, he hadn't made weight in 2 years, he was bone dry & suffered for it. I give DJ no credit, anybody with power would've done that to Quillin that night.

                After that you're left with a crushing defeat to Pirog, & Sulecki/Mora/Truax as his best W's. DJ's resume is nothing special, very overrated fighter.

                The J-Rock-Centeno stoppage was laughably bad, J-Rock was schooling him not competitive. It took Charlo a fraction of the punches Sulecki landed to KO him.
                Last edited by Cutthroat; 04-29-2018, 04:41 AM.

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                • Cutthroat
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by stealthradon
                  As of 10:22 local time here..
                  78 comments.
                  Only counting non-replies, because I am lazy.

                  So your overwhelming support:
                  1 Jacobs 👎👎👎 Sulecki 👍👍👍👍👍👍

                  2 Lose Jacobs

                  3 Should be 114-113 for Maciej Sulecki

                  4 American Robbers. . shame for boxing

                  5 aMERICAN ROBBERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  6 Loosee jacobs !!!!

                  7 I had Sulecki up by 2 rounds, those score cards were atrocious...

                  8 Jacob ate leather all night. N still was behind on the scoreboard despite his 12rnd knockdown. Don't be fool . Daniel u lost that fight to a better fighter admit accept it. Was close but u we're down on the scoreboard.
                  more home cooking..

                  9 Those scorecards are hilarious . Sulecki was punching almost whole round , and Jacobs wins by throwing 1 power punch . Please.... Scorecards changes tactics in team ....
                  I think Sulecki was robbed .

                  10 Sulecki won the fight come on!!!! It is very clear!!

                  10 comments agreeing.

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                  Comments for Jacobs

                  1 Score cards were disgraceful. if not that knock down it should have been pointed a win for Sulecki ( yes, im from Poland but it doesnt mean i cant see things clearly )

                  2 Man that was really close fight, I agree with the win of Jacobs, but it was waaaay closer than they seem to believe.

                  3 Jacobs win that, but it was close fight. And like 6 rnd win for Sulęcki, this guy with funny voice gave it to Jacobs? Landed so much for Jacobs? They must count him shots taken on block... In my opinion was 7 rnd + ko for Jacobs to 5 rnds for Sulęcki. 115 to 112.

                  4 This is just as close as ggg vs Jacobs except this time Jacobs won

                  5 I had it 1 point Jacobs but could also have been 1 point sulecki. Definitely was closer than judges and commentators had it.

                  6 I apologised for all the deluded Poles here, the fight was 8-4 for Jacobs + a knockdown

                  7 I feel like Jacobs won the fight through accuracy. No shade on Sulencki, the man came with exceptional fight. I don't think he was outboxed at all. But anyways that's the thing about great fights: they leave us divided.

                  8 To all the sore polish fans. Jacobs landed the harder more effective punches. He even knocked your man down. Your boy just lost.

                  8 thinks Jacobs won.

                  So your overwhelming support is 10 to 8? WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
                  lol Why are you counting the comments? The #1 comment has 50 likes, and it's Jacobs 👎👎👎 Sulecki 👍👍👍👍👍

                  The support was overwhelmingly in Sulecki's favor.

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                  • Cutthroat
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Shrap
                    You seriously don't know **** about boxing. To start with, and your biggest rookie mistake - it couldn't have been a draw because of the KD.

                    Sulecki walked away from the 12th round knowing he'd lost, didn't even try to raise his hand. His whole corner showed the same body language.

                    When the decision was announced Sulecki clapped for Jacobs.

                    Jacobs outlanded him, dropped him, landed cleaner and harder and had the confidence and control for the majority of the fight.

                    Sulecki gave a good account of himself and stayed competitive but he was outclassed and beaten, as he himself admitted.
                    I didn't see the knock down live so forgot about it, my stream conked out at that point. Still I had Sulecki winning by 2 rounds prior to the KD and he came back strong that round, it was razor a razor thin fight with the knock down.

                    Sulecki had DJ backing up all night, winning the battle of the jabs, landing the cleaner punches. Sulecki knew he lost because it was Brooklyn, they're not giving him the W. You think HBO can market Sulecki like they do DJ? They're trying to build something in Brooklyn and Sulecki is not apart of their plans. Their commentary was biased AF.

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                    • TonyGe
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Cutthroat
                      I never said Jacobs was a P4P fighter lmao, I asked because I wanted to see how much everyone overrated him. I've always said DJ was overrated, he's proven it multiple times. He became overrated because ggg beat him, that's it, he was irrelevant because he'd already lost in devastating fashion to Pirog.

                      Fans that's don't know boxing keep hyping these guys up, I'll keep knocking them down with facts. The results speak for themselves.
                      I haven't seen the fight yet but didn't Jacobs win?

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