I think a lot of people owe Canelo an apology

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  • maracho
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    #351
    Originally posted by travestyny
    Here you go saying NOT WADA again. I already told you that WADA doesn't do testing.


    Do you mean to say it wasn't a WADA Accredited Lab that didn't find Canelo's Clenbuterol use? And that's why it's more trustworthy to you?

    I don't want you saying that I'm playing with semantics again!
    Here you go again misquoting me to draw attention from the Money Team. First it was Quest that I hadnt even mentioned and now its VADA who I simply corrected you on.

    Bottom line though is WADA is obviously just a racketeering agency

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    • travestyny
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      #352
      Originally posted by maracho
      Here you go again misquoting me to draw attention from the Money Team. First it was Quest that I hadnt even mentioned and now its VADA who I simply corrected you on.

      Bottom line though is WADA is obviously just a racketeering agency
      No, I'm trying to understand what you mean. Last time you said I was playing with semantics.


      When you say WADA, do you mean a WADA accredited lab or actually WADA? You're saying a WADA accredited lab didn't bust Canelo. It was VADA?

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      • travestyny
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        #353
        Originally posted by maracho
        Here you go again misquoting me to draw attention from the Money Team. First it was Quest that I hadnt even mentioned and now its VADA who I simply corrected you on.

        Bottom line though is WADA is obviously just a racketeering agency
        Did you realize your mistake yet????


        [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]

        Let me give you a hint....You're in the right thread:

        Last edited by travestyny; 04-30-2018, 12:59 PM.

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        • maracho
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          #354
          Originally posted by travestyny
          No, I'm trying to understand what you mean. Last time you said I was playing with semantics.


          When you say WADA, do you mean a WADA accredited lab or actually WADA? You're saying a WADA accredited lab didn't bust Canelo. It was VADA?
          Lol Einstein its not WADA doing the testing but VADA --another testing associate like Pac was requesting in Philippines but much less strict. Canelo probably just got complacent with the voluntary control.

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          • boxingenius002
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            #355
            I think you owe him a **** suck and a sandwich... hes juiced alright, pretty obvious... and paying off ppl is a no brainer... but seriously suck a ****

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            • travestyny
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              #356
              Originally posted by maracho
              Lol Einstein its not WADA doing the testing but VADA --another testing associate like Pac was requesting in Philippines but much less strict. Canelo probably just got complacent with the voluntary control.
              WADA does not test athletes. I've told you this a million times.

              You talked a lot of shlt about the SMRTL WADA accredited lab but you don't have a problem with VADA that isn't even a WADA signatory. Hmmm.

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              • BattlingNelson
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                #357
                Originally posted by travestyny
                I don't agree with you on your first point. Many users of Clen say that they gain weight back rapidly when they stop using. It's like you're saying he used Clen just to get into "2 month out weight." I supposed that's possible, but c'mon. It's a bit foolish.
                Doesn’t matter what random users say. It’s all about scientific evidence and most people takes it to lose weight.

                Foolish? Really? What if Canelo walks around at 185? Would it be far fetched to assume he’d like to start camp at a lower weight? Of course not. It’s highly plausible.

                I haven't looked into hair follicle tests, but just the fact that the lab did the test shows that it can be of some use. Again, plenty of experts have vouched for him and the hair test was negative. I don't think it's conclusive, but it makes a very good case.
                Not an expert either, but from what I have skimmed it seems as if the test is very unreliable. I can be moved on this point however.

                But I do agree with you that in the end, it's meh. He was suspended. It's pretty much over. People will believe what they want no matter what information is presented, apparently. Even those calling for the hair test are now saying it doesn't matter (that isn't aimed at you, but just what I've read around these parts).
                I called for a hair test because I thought that might solve the case. As indicated above I am not sure any more.

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                • maracho
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                  #358
                  Originally posted by travestyny
                  Did you realize your mistake yet????


                  [img]https://media.*****.com/media/l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji/*****.gif[/img]

                  Let me give you a hint....You're in the right thread:

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                  • travestyny
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                    #359
                    Originally posted by maracho
                    Did you learn anything in that thread? I put it there to help guys like you.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #360
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                      With his hair sample coming up negative it's clear that he wasn't doping or using clen as a masking agent for something worse.

                      The results are consistent with eating tainted meat.

                      The critics should now clear his name with the same publicity with which they besmirched it.
                      Homie I'd agree with you but for the fact he quit before they announced the results of this test. The hair samples were collected March 29, a full 6 weeks after the samples he gave that tested positive. He pulled out of the fight April 3.

                      He had ample time to do hair test early enough to avoid having to pull out. Feels like the hair test was more a PR move.

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