I think a lot of people owe Canelo an apology

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  • maracho
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    #131
    Originally posted by travestyny
    Huh? I think Bob Arum was confused when he was stating they would use WADA. WADA doesn't carry out drug testing.

    They went to arbitration over blood testing using USADA, where they were trying to figure out what the cut-off date would be.
    wada uses accredited labratories for specific countries of residence. For instance, it uses usada for usa boxers but usada testing a philipine fighter wasnt normal

    Bottom line is that the US olympic edtablishments are the biggest hypocrits in history when it comes to systemic ped use
    Last edited by maracho; 04-28-2018, 12:47 PM.

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    • Smash
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      #132
      why would canelo eat meat that he knows is probably contaminated with clen? Its common knowlege that local meat from mexico is bad. Plus was this not his first drug test in mexico and he gets caught? Correct me if im wrong here but that suspect in itself. Whether hes a cheater or a total idiot for eating meat he knows is bad its probably time to move on from it, hes enrolled in full testing now and got a slap on the wrist ban, we need a rematch with golovkin this year hopefully

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      • maracho
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        #133
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        If this happened to Canelo by accident then what was so bad about his behavior?

        Ok, so he was careless about what he ate. Fine.

        But does that merit him being crucified and maligned like a criminal?



        Canelo didn't avoid drug testing. That alone makes him different from Pacquiao.
        Again , Pac didnt refuse testing

        btw, id appreciate you proving that Canelo has ever been tested with the same disruptive manipulations that Floyd called for Pac

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          #134
          Originally posted by travestyny
          Would you be so gung-ho about condemning GGG? Or how about Marquez? That might be a bad example because some have reason to believe he was using also.

          The fact of the matter is the head of a WADA lab said that the levels found were consistent with meat contamination, another expert stated that it was consistent with meat contamination and gave no benefit at that level, and now a hair test also corroborates that it was likely meat contamination.

          The evidence seems to be mounting that it was what he said it was: meat contamination. That's what is making the 33 people here reluctant to condemn him. If anyone is being honest, there is no concrete evidence that this is more than meat contamination, but there have been experts and tests that show it could have very well been just that.
          Is there a link for proof he ate a bad steak?

          Why would he eat meat with the history of it being contaminated with clen?

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            #135
            Originally posted by Smash
            why would canelo eat meat that he knows is probably contaminated with clen? Its common knowlege that local meat from mexico is bad. Plus was this not his first drug test in mexico and he gets caught? Correct me if im wrong here but that suspect in itself. Whether hes a cheater or a total idiot for eating meat he knows is bad its probably time to move on from it, hes enrolled in full testing now and got a slap on the wrist ban, we need a rematch with golovkin this year hopefully
            good post, you're right

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            • maracho
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              #136
              Originally posted by Gigantes
              Is there a link for proof he ate a bad steak?

              Why would he eat meat with the history of it being contaminated with clen?
              Good point, Im sure that Canelo could have pointed investigators to the restaurants or markets were he bought the meat but it doesnt seem he has

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                #137
                Originally posted by maracho
                Again , Pac didnt refuse testing

                btw, id appreciate you proving that Canelo has ever been tested with the same disruptive manipulations that Floyd called for Pac
                Floyd asked for random drug testing via USADA.

                Canelo has willingly submitted to random drug testing via VADA.

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by maracho
                  Good point, Im sure that Canelo could have pointed investigators to the restaurants or markets were he bought the meat but it doesnt seem he has
                  This sums it up pretty nicely

                  **** HERCULES
                  ratCatcherMpls
                  The punishment for accidentally ingesting PED's should be ten times harsher than doing it on purpose because it means you're ****ing ******ed and can't be trusted with simple tasks like eating food and taking medicinehttp://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/23328867/saul-canelo-alvarez-had-hair-follicle-testing-request-nevada-state-athletic-commission …

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Floyd asked for random drug testing via USADA.

                    Canelo has willingly submitted to random drug testing via VADA.
                    really?

                    VADA: Canelo Not Currently Enrolled in Testing Program

                    On the same day Canelo Alvarez’s temporary PED-related suspension was extended to six months, the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association’s president stated that Alva

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by siablo14
                      Red - I will search for one that you would approve.


                      But see GGG is a tough matchup and a guy like Canelo would have to take something to honestly beat GGG. He and his team knew they could use the Mexican meat excuse, so went ahead and took it.

                      Shoulder take it from me The Powers That Be who have big investments in Las Vegas were never gonna allow that test to come back clean. Maywetaher Jr is gone and they need another big star to get them the multi million dollar fights every year. Casino's, hotels, restaurants, whore houses, etc. Too much money to lose. Take it from me Shoulder, the people behind those big investments have history of controlling the whole financial sector of the world.

                      Look how successful Floyd was. He was with Haymon and Haymon is sponsored and financied by Corona. Look who is Corona's parent company and then look who has shares in it. That's one example of those people's involvement in boxing.

                      So don't take their word on that hair sample so quick.
                      I want a legit source, please.

                      Otherwise you're engaging in silly, made up speculation with nothing to back it up.

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