I think a lot of people owe Canelo an apology

[travestyny]

Pacman simply refused Mayweather's manipulating the testing methods the way Mayweather tries to manipulate everything. Mcgregar should refuse the same

Canelo has adopted Mayweathers privileged ways

No he didn't. He "agreed" to USADA testing, but only disagreed with being tested up until the fight and stated specifically that he needed 24 days to recover.

Actually he claimed he needed 30 days to recover....until he got busted giving blood 24 days before the Hatton fight.

That was obviously bullshlt.

[maracho]

No he didn't. He "agreed" to USADA testing, but only disagreed with being tested up until the fight and stated specifically that he needed 24 days to recover.

That was obviously bullshlt.

pro boxing hadnt been accustomed to using usada and what Floyd called for wasnt normal usada

[travestyny]

pro boxing hadnt been accustomed to using usada and what Floyd called for wasnt normal usada

But didn't Pacquiao "agree" to using USADA? If so, he didn't disagree with the proposed testing method, per se.

Seems his team tried to save face by "agreeing" to the testing method, but only agree to something so ineffective that they knew it would be the equivalent to disagreeing to testing.

The point I'm trying to make is his team didn't state they were against USADA at that time. They were against having blood drawn 24 days or less to the fight, which is ludicrous.

[ShoulderRoll]

Look at you fully trusting the official source when it suits you.

Well, I don't trust them. It was apart of the big conspiracy to preserve Canelo's name because he brings in a lot of money for the folks in power.

Can you dig it?

Do you have a source for that, Dale Gribble?

Over 100 soccer players tested positive for clenbuterol at the FIFA Under-17 World Cup in Mexico.

It's obvious that this is a problem and something that can befall people down there accidentally.

[maracho]

But didn't Pacquiao "agree" to using USADA? If so, he didn't disagree with the proposed testing method, per se.

Seems his team tried to save face by "agreeing" to the testing method, but only agree to something so ineffective that they knew it would be the equivalent to disagreeing to testing.

The point I'm trying to make is his team didn't state they were against USADA at that time. They were against having blood drawn 24 days or less to the fight, which is ludicrous.

He agreed to using wada, which was typical for foriegn athletes and very wise due to the notoriously bad and biased track record of usada and travis tygart

[travestyny]

He agreed to using wada, which was typical for foriegn athletes and very wise due to the notoriously bad and biased track record of usada and travis tygart

Huh? I think Bob Arum was confused when he was stating they would use WADA. WADA doesn't carry out drug testing.

They went to arbitration over blood testing using USADA, where they were trying to figure out what the cut-off date would be.

[Gigantes]

You're also ignoring the obvious. People have been su****ious of Pacquiao for quite some time, with him being to blame for claiming to need 24 days to recover from giving blood for a 50/50 split against Mayweather in 2010.

Canelo never refused testing and there weren't really any vocal su****ions about him on a grand scale.

But again, as you can see with your poll, most people believe Canelo was cheating anyway. I imagine it would be the same, actually on an even bigger scale with Pacquiao because of his history.

I'm not asking about the poll. I'm saying the 33 people who are vindicating Clenelo, wouldn't share the same tone had it been someone like GGG

[ShoulderRoll]

Typical scenario these days. Reward someone for bad behavior. If anyone deserves an apology it’s boxing fans and team Golovkin.

If this happened to Canelo by accident then what was so bad about his behavior?

Ok, so he was careless about what he ate. Fine.

But does that merit him being crucified and maligned like a criminal?

Pacman simply refused Mayweather's manipulating the testing methods the way Mayweather tries to manipulate everything. Mcgregar should refuse the same

Canelo has adopted Mayweathers privileged ways

Canelo didn't avoid drug testing. That alone makes him different from Pacquiao.

[siablo14]

Do you have a source for that, Dale Gribble?

Over 100 soccer players tested positive for clenbuterol at the FIFA Under-17 World Cup in Mexico.

It's obvious that this is a problem and something that can befall people down there accidentally.

Red - I will search for one that you would approve.


But see GGG is a tough matchup and a guy like Canelo would have to take something to honestly beat GGG. He and his team knew they could use the Mexican meat excuse, so went ahead and took it.

Shoulder take it from me The Powers That Be who have big investments in Las Vegas were never gonna allow that test to come back clean. Maywetaher Jr is gone and they need another big star to get them the multi million dollar fights every year. Casino's, hotels, restaurants, whore houses, etc. Too much money to lose. Take it from me Shoulder, the people behind those big investments have history of controlling the whole financial sector of the world.

Look how successful Floyd was. He was with Haymon and Haymon is sponsored and financied by Corona. Look who is Corona's parent company and then look who has shares in it. That's one example of those people's involvement in boxing.

So don't take their word on that hair sample so quick.

[travestyny]

I'm not asking about the poll. I'm saying the 33 people who are vindicating Clenelo, wouldn't share the same tone had it been someone like GGG

Would you be so gung-ho about condemning GGG? Or how about Marquez? That might be a bad example because some have reason to believe he was using also.

The fact of the matter is the head of a WADA lab said that the levels found were consistent with meat contamination, another expert stated that it was consistent with meat contamination and gave no benefit at that level, and now a hair test also corroborates that it was likely meat contamination.

The evidence seems to be mounting that it was what he said it was: meat contamination. That's what is making the 33 people here reluctant to condemn him. If anyone is being honest, there is no concrete evidence that this is more than meat contamination, but there have been experts and tests that show it could have very well been just that.