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  • Originally posted by siablo14 View Post
    Don't read what the nut wrote, Koba.
    I don't mind reading the stuff these guys get their ideas from, man.. I'm plenty secure in my beliefs and I like to know what I'm arguing against, but honestly I only have so much time to go around and I've read enough of that kinda thing in the past to know it ain't really worth the time I'd have to put into it.

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    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      No, he hasn't been cleared of anything. I agree with you there. But the evidence when taken together makes a strong case for his contention.

      Even before he failed, it was stated that he would be relocating to America in the first week of March. Why would he load up on Clenbuterol for the first 12 days of camp and then stop? It makes no sense.

      Plus, at the levels that were found, if he was using it the****utically, he was clearly on his way off of it so that the levels fell to "tainted beef" level. So at 2 months before the fight, he had gained what he wanted from Clenbuterol already?


      Come on, dude. It makes no sense.
      Of course it makes sense. He was tested 2 weeks before he expected to be tested, so maybe he was recycling having lost whatever weight he wanted.

      I don’t see a strong case because:

      1; it’s now clear that hair follicle tests are inconclusive
      2: where did he buy the meat?
      3: Is the other meat from that batch tainted?
      4: Reciepts for purchase.

      But again. It’s a mute point. He had the ped in him and received an extremely lenient penalty. Had he been given a year ban and a hefty fine, he could try and argue a lower sentence. Now it’s just meh.

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      • Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Of course it makes sense. He was tested 2 weeks before he expected to be tested, so maybe he was recycling having lost whatever weight he wanted.

        I don’t see a strong case because:

        1; it’s now clear that hair follicle tests are inconclusive
        2: where did he buy the meat?
        3: Is the other meat from that batch tainted?
        4: Reciepts for purchase.

        But again. It’s a mute point. He had the ped in him and received an extremely lenient penalty. Had he been given a year ban and a hefty fine, he could try and argue a lower sentence. Now it’s just meh.
        Think you are reading too much into it, no one should keep receipts and evidence when buying a steak in a restaurant just incase it’s tainted, do you store receipts or drug test steak before consumption???!?!

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        • Originally posted by abracada View Post
          Think you are reading too much into it, no one should keep receipts and evidence when buying a steak in a restaurant just incase it’s tainted, do you store receipts or drug test steak before consumption???!?!
          Only test the bag
          And no need for receipts
          I know what I owe
          With his kind of coin I wouldn’t be eating anything that’s fughin tainted
          Neither would you

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          • Originally posted by abracada View Post
            Think you are reading too much into it, no one should keep receipts and evidence when buying a steak in a restaurant just incase it’s tainted, do you store receipts or drug test steak before consumption???!?!
            Most Mexican restaurants and markets accept credit cards, especially the kind Canelo would attend

            Mexican government says there is only one in a million chance to eat meat tainted with clenbuteral and its soccar players are just full of crap

            http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-mexico-beef-not-tainted-by-drug-found-in-players-2011jun10-story.html

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            • Originally posted by abracada View Post
              Think you are reading too much into it, no one should keep receipts and evidence when buying a steak in a restaurant just incase it’s tainted, do you store receipts or drug test steak before consumption???!?!
              As far as I recall cyclist Alberto Contador did when banned for clenbuterol.

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              • Originally posted by Zaroku View Post
                Agreed....
                God father’s arrornet tom Hayden said the same thing in the God father part two.... classic...
                I wondered when someone would catch the reference.

                Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
                I don't mind reading the stuff these guys get their ideas from, man.. I'm plenty secure in my beliefs and I like to know what I'm arguing against, but honestly I only have so much time to go around and I've read enough of that kinda thing in the past to know it ain't really worth the time I'd have to put into it.
                Well, I hope you reconsider.

                Conspiracy theories about the New World Order typically come from sketchy sources and are usually presented with no evidence.

                The Naked Capitalist on the other hand is professionally researched and organized with a multitude of credible references.

                Dr. Quigley taught at Harvard and Princeton and was professor of history at the Foreign Service School of Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.

                Personally I think I'm looking at indisputable evidence of a worldwide conspiracy. But I'm always interested in hearing the thoughts of others when presented with this same information, even if they come to different conclusions.


                Originally posted by maracho View Post
                Most Mexican restaurants and markets accept credit cards, especially the kind Canelo would attend

                Mexican government says there is only one in a million chance to eat meat tainted with clenbuteral and its soccar players are just full of crap

                http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...n10-story.html
                I can tell you from experience that some of the best Mexican food is found on street corners in places where they definitely don't take credit cards.

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                • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                  I can tell you from experience that some of the best Mexican food is found on street corners in places where they definitely don't take credit cards.
                  That is very true and thats were I usually ate throughout there but Canelo lives in Palaces and his coaches Eddy and Chepo Reynoso own their own meat markets and according to prefight videos do most of Canelo's cooking. These videos and images have mysteriously disappeard
                  Last edited by maracho; 04-29-2018, 10:23 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by maracho View Post
                    Basically, I proved in that thread that you, WADA chief **** Strong, and your hero Ayotte were all corrupt and because..

                    ...You are the one that kept clamoring how great the French WADA lab was but which some UCLA scientists said were all crazy. And Im sure UCLA was suspended only from temporarily testing certain substances that WADA wants privy for their yes-men in France; and just in time for their 2024 Olympics pick.

                    As for Nick Diaz you're making a strawman. My whole point is that the Salt Lake lab obviously screwed up when they said his marijuana test came back negative.

                    Anything that can trigger epigenetic traits can be permanent

                    Dude, just shut up already. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and I've proven that every single time we've had a conversation.

                    Go back to thinking WADA conducts testing and that SMRTL messed up a marijuana test twice when Quest Diagnostics not only got Diaz test wrong, but they also fuucked up his opponents test on the same damn day. Even Kevin Iole called anyone who sided with Quest essentially a moron.

                    Then go back to saying you get permanent benefits from doing Clenbuterol.

                    Then go back to believing the Philippines has an accredited WADA lab.

                    I can go on and on. You've embarrassed yourself because either you are on some kind of drugs, or you just aren't very bright.

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                    • Originally posted by maracho View Post
                      "Probably" means you dont know where they do the testing?



                      When people get blood tests, they get lab work, silly goose and these are quotes from USADA:

                      “From test planning and collection of a urine or blood sample, through the results managements process, USADA provides a thorough program, with policies and procedures in accordance with the World Anti-Doping Code, the WADA International Standards,”....“When USADA tests an athlete who is a minor (under the age of 18), USADA policies require that he or she be accompanied by an athlete representative at all times”



                      And now you are contradicting yourself...lol



                      Maybe you'll feel better in the morning or a Clenburger..lol

                      You moron. What the actual fuuck does any of that have to do with you being wrong about the Philippines having a WADA accredited lab.


                      Just admit that you are wrong and shut the fvvck up already.

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