Canelo's hair result doesn't solve or resolve anything.

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #1

    Canelo's hair result doesn't solve or resolve anything.

    As I stated before in another thread:



    You still have a problem. And it's still Canelo's fault for that problem.

    Under the rules, there can be NO levels of clenbuterol. It doesn't matter about the hair test. Whatever two samples he provided beforehand, both were tainted somehow. It doesn't matter how, but the su****ion is tainted meat.

    Therein is the problem: he shouldn't be consuming tainted meat, at any time, for any reason. Because he knows there's a BS risk he fails a test.

    It's like that guy who failed for a commonly available GNC protein powder. There's a responsibility for your team to understand those risks and do everything in your power to make sure you aren't consuming something that might get you popped.

    Him getting busted isn't even that bad. It's the court of public opinion he has to worry about. It doesn't matter what he does; that opinion won't ever change.

    There's only one way to correct this and other such issues. The business needs to openly acknowledge their testing is faulty and isn't really catching drug cheats effectively - which is what Victor Conte has been saying for over a year. Instead, their current program, due to ignorance as to how to handle it, is popping potentially innocent people at an unacceptable pace.

    But until and unless that happens, we all need to reconcile one main thing.

    Canelo is still culpable for not taking the proper precautions against any remote possibility of failing tests.
  • Death_Adder
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    #2
    Shut up moron

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #3
      Originally posted by Death_Adder
      Shut up moron
      You can go back to wearing your Canelo swag and attending his events.

      Done.

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      • M Bison
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        #4
        Originally posted by revelated
        As I stated before in another thread:



        You still have a problem. And it's still Canelo's fault for that problem.

        Under the rules, there can be NO levels of clenbuterol. It doesn't matter about the hair test. Whatever two samples he provided beforehand, both were tainted somehow. It doesn't matter how, but the su****ion is tainted meat.

        Therein is the problem: he shouldn't be consuming tainted meat, at any time, for any reason. Because he knows there's a BS risk he fails a test.

        It's like that guy who failed for a commonly available GNC protein powder. There's a responsibility for your team to understand those risks and do everything in your power to make sure you aren't consuming something that might get you popped.

        Him getting busted isn't even that bad. It's the court of public opinion he has to worry about. It doesn't matter what he does; that opinion won't ever change.

        There's only one way to correct this and other such issues. The business needs to openly acknowledge their testing is faulty and isn't really catching drug cheats effectively - which is what Victor Conte has been saying for over a year. Instead, their current program, due to ignorance as to how to handle it, is popping potentially innocent people at an unacceptable pace.

        But until and unless that happens, we all need to reconcile one main thing.

        Canelo is still culpable for not taking the proper precautions against any remote possibility of failing tests.
        Another delusional Floid lover who is literally down at the knees willing to suck farts out of his pimply roided up *******, you make me sick.

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        • Combat Talk Radio
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          #5
          Originally posted by BombSquad
          Another delusional Floid lover who is literally down at the knees willing to suck farts out of his pimply roided up *******, you make me sick.
          Canelo swag. Wear it.

          Done

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          • Dosumpthin
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            #6
            You're assuming it's tainted meat.


            It could be VADA using an unreliable collection agent.


            OR


            Oscar kitchen utensils should be tested.





            Either way the problem is VADA. The determination of intent to cheat or negligence or whatever should be the sole decision of the ADO - not us, not journalist, not Conte, not the commission - NSAC should only imposes the sanctions.


            VADA needs to be the one to label Canelo as a PED cheat.

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            • R-C
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              #7
              Ya'll still mad the results came out negative?

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              • Slipthepunch
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                #8
                Latest Canelo hair test results now in...


                He's definitely Ginger!

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                • Street15
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                  #9
                  I don't get what's so wrong with this statement. If you know there's a strict liability and zero threshold for Clen, you take the proper precautions and go out of your way to stay away from it.

                  People are attacking fans like fans created the NSAC bylaws. They're more focused on attacking fans, then they are on attacking the commission that actually suspended him. Fans didn't do that. NSAC did.

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                  • El Gitano
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                    #10
                    It only helps resolve the issue, or the question, or the accusation that he was cycling on clenbuterol, which is way more damaging than testing for traces of clenbuterol, which were well within the WADA threshold of contaminated meat.

                    So it helps Canelo's explanation that it was tainted meat, vs what everyone else was saying, that he had been dirty for years.

                    Trace levels of clenbuterol, below the WADA threshold, and now negative on the hair test, with all that together, the chances that he had been cycling on clenbuterol are slim to none.

                    And as Conte was saying, because of this case, WADA might now establish an allowable limit for trace amounts of clenbuterol in urine & hair, which probably VADA and the NSAC would adopt . Sucks that it had to cost us the GGG rematch but, oh well.
                    Last edited by El Gitano; 04-27-2018, 08:20 AM.

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