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  • El Ondeado
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    #1

    Great fighters who haven't touched M's yet?

    Like Danny Jacobs said.

    Charlo? Who else?
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    #2
    so we're calling charlo a great fighter now?

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    • El Ondeado
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      #3
      Originally posted by considerthis
      so we're calling charlo a great fighter now?
      Charlo is solid B level aspiring to be A level.

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      • chrisJS
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        #4
        I guess we have different views on greatness.

        I think there's only two currently active prizefighters who can actually retire today and be considered truly great in a historical sense and that's Pacquaio and Chocolatito.

        Lomachenko is clearly a great fighter and is basically a guarantee to be considered a truly great fighter but even he's not there -yet. Maybe with a dominant win next month he's probably just achieved it. I think Crawford is a great fighter on his way too but still would fall short from being labeled a historically great fighter if he retired today.

        Charlo isn't going to be a great fighter at any point. He's a good fighter and potentially an elite level fighter but let's not get carried away. Greatness is a term that's used far too loosely.

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        • rolshans
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          #5
          Roman Gonzalez comes to mind...

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          • El Ondeado
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            #6
            Originally posted by chrisJS
            I guess we have different views on greatness.

            I think there's only two currently active prizefighters who can actually retire today and be considered truly great in a historical sense and that's Pacquaio and Chocolatito.

            Lomachenko is clearly a great fighter and is basically a guarantee to be considered a truly great fighter but even he's not there -yet. Maybe with a dominant win next month he's probably just achieved it. I think Crawford is a great fighter on his way too but still would fall short from being labeled a historically great fighter if he retired today.

            Charlo isn't going to be a great fighter at any point. He's a good fighter and potentially an elite level fighter but let's not get carried away. Greatness is a term that's used far too loosely.
            What I mean B level contenders & champions.

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            • chrisJS
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              #7
              Originally posted by El Ondeado
              What I mean B level contenders & champions.
              That's quite different from great.

              Anyway, truly elite level top, top guys yet to touch a mill? Easy. Chocolatito, Inoue, Rungvisai, Estrada, Nietes. All of those guys are absolutely quality fighters and haven't sniffed a mill. I'd say apart from Chocolatito probably not even $500k.

              Those guys are all better than Charlo and to be honest probably Jacobs too.

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                #8
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                I guess we have different views on greatness.

                I think there's only two currently active prizefighters who can actually retire today and be considered truly great in a historical sense and that's Pacquaio and Chocolatito.

                Lomachenko is clearly a great fighter and is basically a guarantee to be considered a truly great fighter but even he's not there -yet. Maybe with a dominant win next month he's probably just achieved it. I think Crawford is a great fighter on his way too but still would fall short from being labeled a historically great fighter if he retired today.

                Charlo isn't going to be a great fighter at any point. He's a good fighter and potentially an elite level fighter but let's not get carried away. Greatness is a term that's used far too loosely.

                Gonzalez is far from a great

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                • MrClutch85
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by El Ondeado
                  Like Danny Jacobs said.

                  Charlo? Who else?
                  Swift Jarrett Hurd

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                  • Johnston
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by bluebeam
                    crawford and lomachencko are gonna get their million this year.

                    so pretty much everybody on the p4p list has seen a million dollar purse
                    Loma made 1.2 for the rigo fight and crawford did about the same for the lundy and pistol fights. I assume he made ju st as much vs indongo.

                    Crawford actually gets paid pretty good money

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