Why do so few fans understand fights can take time to make?

**TonyGe** · 04-26-2018, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by chrisJS

I've been watching Boxing for about 25 years (I'm 32) and been posting on forums for about 17 or 18 years and it seems the fans these days are more hung up on who's avoiding who and who doesn't want to fight rather than the fights themselves. There has always been fights that have been harder to make due to ego's, different promoters, different networks etc; It was never this bad and discussions were more based on what will happen during fighters and discussing a fighters merits but these days the hot topic is ducking.

I've noticed it does seem to be from an influx of newer fans and the casual fans these days are really into the drama more than the sport and nothing gets them talking like a perceived duck. Why did Boxing fans get so bad? Why has Boxing attracted so many ****** fans? It's also ****** in fans that probably used to view the sport in a better light and have more intelligent views.

Every thread you see on here or anything on social media always results in users immediately talking about who the fighter (who they dislike) is avoiding and even in the event of them signing to fight a fighter that "fan" wanted they then go to another fighter who's being ducked. It's almost like there's 5 or 6 guys that every fighter is ducking if that fighter is one you haven't taken a liking. Heaven forbid if the fighter they dislike beats a guy you demanded they fight and then suddenly that fight and win is ****ted on and doesn't matter anymore because he's ducking your other guy.

Fighters in general are some of the toughest athletes in the World. Physically, mentally and actually due to the nature of the sport the most confident in themselves and you throw bigger paydays for bigger fights out there most fighters are all about that. Some fights just don't happen overnight and some aren't negotiated in one sitting.

Boxing fans have always been cynical but seems over time it's gone from being cynical to being whiny, hard to please and stubborn as hell. Impossible to please. I think Boxing is a great sport and there's some great loyal fans but they are harder to find and in general I hate to admit it but I think we have even dumber fans than the UFC and other sports.

You mentioned it in your post. I fits their narrative to be ****** or pretend to be ******.

**_Maxi** · 04-26-2018, 12:54 PM

You got so used to boxing bullying the boxing fans, that you are actually defending it. You have Stocolm syndrome.

You are used to **** that shouldn't happen.

**BLACK KNOT** · 04-26-2018, 12:55 PM

because we have seen fights over marinate time and time again. its bullcrap. I have seen boxing fans argue over money/contracts over fights that never end up happening. I get the business part of it but if we could get a tournament set up like the world series of boxing this sport would be the best sport in the world.

**chrisJS** · 04-26-2018, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by TonyGe

You mentioned it in your post. I fits their narrative to be ****** or pretend to be ******.

I think more fans than ever are into the drama of what's going on outside the ring than the fights themselves.

Take Joshua-Wilder for example. I'm convinced half of each fan base is desperate for it to not happen so they can point the finger and even years after they have fought what's left of the losers fan base will still talk about who their guy was ducked and the winner didn't really want it.

**TonyGe** · 04-26-2018, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by chrisJS

I think more fans than ever are into the drama of what's going on outside the ring than the fights themselves.

Take Joshua-Wilder for example. I'm convinced half of each fan base is desperate for it to not happen so they can point the finger and even years after they have fought what's left of the losers fan base will still talk about who their guy was ducked and the winner didn't really want it.

Probably but I have to admit on one hand I don't care if Golovkin tells Canello to go kick cans down the road. On the other I want him to soundly defeat Canello in the rematch. The fight that was supposed to be the shining star of boxing was good but the aftermath was a train wreck.

**Real King Kong** · 04-26-2018, 01:02 PM

problem is the internet/social media. every fleeting thought or whim about a potential fight is reported on these days. people take information and speculation from unqualified journalists at face value. even worse is the media model in general these days, with the trend to sensationalize for clicks. even so called respected journalists have to follow that trend or fade into obscurity. just another example of the broader dumbing down of society...boxing fans aren't immune.

**chrisJS** · 04-26-2018, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by considerthis

problem is the internet/social media. every fleeting thought or whim about a potential fight is reported on these days. people take information and speculation from unqualified journalists at face value. even worse is the media model in general these days, with the trend to sensationalize for clicks. even so called respected journalists have to follow that trend or fade into obscurity. just another example of the broader dumbing down of society...boxing fans aren't immune.

Yeah, that's a good point for sure. People are easily brainwashed and believe what they want to.

**Eddy Current** · 04-26-2018, 01:06 PM

I think society in general has taken on a more "Now! Now! Now! Gimme! Gimme!" mentality than has been around in years past.

**Bad_Guy** · 04-26-2018, 01:12 PM

Because we've already seen too many fights that were past their expiration date. The most notable example being May/Pac, but there have been others like Tyson/Lewis, Leonard/Hagler, etc.

Why do so few fans understand fights can take time to make?