Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Canelo Will Get Tested Every Day From Now Until Fight

[boxinggod101]

moles???lol

So the test that Floyd and Manny took was useless? Than Floyd abuse IV. Manny had back acne. Man those 2 were roided as hell.

Its harder to see acne on a darker skin. Would have been funny to see both these guys roided with the back acne.

[Cheek busting]

I was one of the first morons on this site to totally accept the "tainted beef" excuse. The letter from the company that did the testing concerning the first failed test which outright stated the level was low enough to be in line with the beef was good enough for me. The confirmed use of the crap in actual beef producers in Mexico was completely true. I love the boxing style of Alvarez, appreciate him for how improved he was since his horrid showing against Mayweather (a fight he couldn't walk away from but was nowhere near ready to step up to) and generally think he kept an entire promotion alive all by himself. I was a moderate fan, only irritated for the dropping of a MW belt he was holding to avoid Golovkin with the excuse he wasn't a real MW. But still, I liked and respected him. Defended him.

Then, the second test showed nearly the same exact levels. Then came other accusations. Then came a refusal to allow other testing right off base to clear his name. Then came insults from his camp that Golovkin wanted out of the fight, not that it was Alvarez fault. Then came that press conference when they pulled out of the rematch with the dog and pony show in which he STILL took no ownership. Everyone else's fault, everyone else was being unreasonable.

I defended this guy. my bad. I apologize to every poster I argued with.

Just to clear things up - the second test DID NOT show the exact same levels, but in fact, showed how much would be expected after a day or two or further metabolization (i.e. there was like .8 found in his first test, and then .08 in the next test).

What tests were these he refused?

I DO AGREE 100% that Alvarez intentionally ingested clenbuterol to get a competitive advantage, though.

Just wanted to clear a few things up.

[aboutfkntime]

A failed drug test is physical evidence.

Oh, and I know, circumstantial evidence can be VERY powerful; often, it can be even more powerful than physical evidence. The circumstantial evidence for Manny, is somewhat convincing, I admit.

Acne IS evidence - it's a known side effect of androgen-based steroids.

of testing positive for clen, not for cheating

you need to prove intent

perhaps read my post again

I said that I don't need " physical evidence "..... IF, I know

because, this is not a court of law

nobody can hide behind the burden of proof here

I see that you must feel similarly, considering your admission about Pac

but yea, acne is not evidence lol..... it is a possible indicator

although...... that sounds about as silly as the big-head "evidence" that guys used to say about Manny

[aboutfkntime]

Can you pull it up? The one where Pac was there laughing while his team were saying that?

they used 8 ridiculous excuses dude

careful..... or I will ask you to tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses YOU believed lol

[boxinggod101]

aaaah, the old..... " Pac did not actually say it himself, he just sat there laughing as every other member of his team (INCLUDING ALL OF HIS OFFICIAL REPRESENTATIVES, TRAINER/PROMOTER LOL) said it " excuse.....

haven't heard that one for awhile

[boxinggod101]

they used 8 ridiculous excuses dude

careful..... or I will ask you to tell us which one of those 8 ridiculous excuses YOU believed lol

You said Pac was there while his team said he was afraid of needles. Can you pull up that article and interview?

[Larry the boss]

So the test that Floyd and Manny took was useless? Than Floyd abuse IV. Manny had back acne. Man those 2 were roided as hell.

Its harder to see acne on a darker skin. Would have been funny to see both these guys roided with the back acne.

just saying you cant accuse other with acne of juicing then ignore others with the same acne

[Jewish-Reptile]

Everyone is talking like a rematch is a certainty but what people fail to understand is GG has to face the might of Vanes first, how can anyone be so sure GG beats him ?

[boxinggod101]

just saying you cant accuse other with acne of juicing then ignore others with the same acne

Im just wondering for people who bring up back acne... Does steroids acne foes only in the back?

[boxinggod101]

Everyone is talking like a rematch is a certainty but what people fail to understand is GG has to face the might of Vanes first, how can anyone be so sure GG beats him ?

**** fight easy win. For some reason I feel Canelo wont give the rematch. Hope I am wrong...