Comments Thread For: Hearn on Wilder's Offer: Wonderful PR Move, We Need a Contract

[Patsfan bri]

Very easy. Agree to the deal first instead of jerking the public around , then sign the contract when it is sent over.

[BLASTER1]

Where the 50 million guarantee coming from? What reliable source do you have that shows you 50 million sat there for AJ right now?

That's what hearns asking... And would you blame him? Highest payday...less than 3 mil. All of a sudden chucks out a 50 million guarantee with a "agree tomorrow or not done" clause. GTFO here with your ish

What the f... you care were its coming from aslong as the fight gets made who cares?
They offered a good deal-legally binding i presume so call it AJ or else your ducking.
Quack quack.

[BLASTER1]

Exactly. Which is why the critical point in Hearn's response isn't 'show me the contract' but 'show us the money, where it comes from, what conditions are attached to it etc'.

He's prepared the ground for this scenario here:

https://********/y8OZeTxJQ7k?t=1395

I think the choice of Beyonce may have been deliberate mischief on his part, maybe he reads here...

In order to guarantee AJ's $50m Hearn will ostensibly, justifiably, want to see proof of funding for the entire show, minus Wilder's cut. That's a lot more than AJ's 50...

Does that money exist outside of a signed AJ, the proven draw in this fight? Hearn's guess is not, what they want is an AJ signature for them then to go to finance and say 'we have this guy signed'.

Do they have the money in a guarantee that doesn't say 'subject to the signature of Anthony Joshua'? It's unlikely, unless Haymon or similar is putting it up and that's a big risk.

All of which means each party has now offered a bid that's unlikely to see a fight delivered. Wilder won't sign to a flat fee, AJ isn't really going to sign the boxing equivalent of a blank cheque.

If we are to get a fight they will need to effectively start again at this meeting and negotiate in good faith a fair deal for all parties. That's the only way this or any other deal gets made. Everybody needs a win at that meeting so everyone has to give a little to get there. If they want it they'll reach a place where everyone wins and we get to see them fight.

If they don't then each of them now have their exit strategies:

Eddie Hearn 'They turned down 5 times Wilder's biggest payday guaranteed. A solid costed offer. They already signed with Breazeale, he don't want it'

Wilder's team 'We gave him the deal he wanted but he refused to sign. He shook'

But lets hope we don't get to that point, if only for the rubbish that will be posted here in the aftermath...

Blah blah blah talking **** mate.

[BLASTER1]

I have a sneaking su****ion part of any deal where Wilder is calling the shots, is that the fight be held in the states, which in my opinion is madness.

Why is Wilder browbeating AJ into signing a contract so hastily? That's (sadly) not how boxing contract negotiations proceed. They often take, months and months, trash talk, lawyers, threats of litigation, threats and insults back and forth, we all know it.

The truth is this fight will be a win-win for both fighters if the fight is held in the U.K. It will be the biggest HW match - up since Holyfield - Lewis, Tyson v Holyfield, etc.

PPV numbers will break records.

If I were Joshua, I would call Wilder's bluff - 'I don't care how much you pay me, it's on my turf or no turf. Plus, I got 4 belts, you got one. I can entice anyone of note over here and no matter what happens they get paid.'

Ok so your a promoter and sets up fights now?
GTFOH

[IMDAZED]

Exactly. Which is why the critical point in Hearn's response isn't 'show me the contract' but 'show us the money, where it comes from, what conditions are attached to it etc'.

He's prepared the ground for this scenario here:

https://********/y8OZeTxJQ7k?t=1395

I think the choice of Beyonce may have been deliberate mischief on his part, maybe he reads here...

In order to guarantee AJ's $50m Hearn will ostensibly, justifiably, want to see proof of funding for the entire show, minus Wilder's cut. That's a lot more than AJ's 50...

Does that money exist outside of a signed AJ, the proven draw in this fight? Hearn's guess is not, what they want is an AJ signature for them then to go to finance and say 'we have this guy signed'.

Do they have the money in a guarantee that doesn't say 'subject to the signature of Anthony Joshua'? It's unlikely, unless Haymon or similar is putting it up and that's a big risk.

All of which means each party has now offered a bid that's unlikely to see a fight delivered. Wilder won't sign to a flat fee, AJ isn't really going to sign the boxing equivalent of a blank cheque.

If we are to get a fight they will need to effectively start again at this meeting and negotiate in good faith a fair deal for all parties. That's the only way this or any other deal gets made. Everybody needs a win at that meeting so everyone has to give a little to get there. If they want it they'll reach a place where everyone wins and we get to see them fight.

If they don't then each of them now have their exit strategies:

Eddie Hearn 'They turned down 5 times Wilder's biggest payday guaranteed. A solid costed offer. They already signed with Breazeale, he don't want it'

Wilder's team 'We gave him the deal he wanted but he refused to sign. He shook'

But lets hope we don't get to that point, if only for the rubbish that will be posted here in the aftermath...

Who the **** is this idiot?

The least of their concerns is where the money is coming from. All they need to see is that the money is in escrow somewhere. Hearn is not taking the risk. He said the best they could do (in the UK) was $40m for all parties. Well, someone is willing to put up way more. I’m pretty sure he knows it’s not drug money. So all he needs to see is the guarantee and that’s that.

[rolshans]

What the f... you care were its coming from aslong as the fight gets made who cares?
They offered a good deal-legally binding i presume so call it AJ or else your ducking.
Quack quack.

It matters a little bit...we don't want a Pacquiao situation where Saudi investors pull out last second.

[Holler]

Who the **** is this idiot?

The least of their concerns is where the money is coming from. All they need to see is that the money is in escrow somewhere. Hearn is not taking the risk. He said the best they could do (in the UK) was $40m for all parties. Well, someone is willing to put up way more. I’m pretty sure he knows it’s not drug money. So all he needs to see is the guarantee and that’s that.

Your point is weak, insulting me doesn't strengthen it, quite the opposite.

[Holler]

Blah blah blah talking **** mate.

Thank you for such an erudite and comprehensive response.

[BLASTER1]

It matters a little bit...we don't want a Pacquiao situation where Saudi investors pull out last second.

Whos we are you part of AJs or Hearns team??
That's what i mean WHY do you care aslong as it gets done.
Im sure AJ doesn't give a ish about you.

[BLASTER1]

Thank you for such an erudite and comprehensive response.

Well i come here to read opinions not novels.