So now Jermall stops triple G?

[BillyBoxing]

I don't know enough about clenbuterol to say that, tbh. All I'm fairly certain on is that it's got a reputation for being used to aggressively drop fat content, whether that be in animals or humans.

Still, how did you jump from what I can assume is acceptable knowledge of what clenbuterol is, to some silly point about the stuff turning you into a mini-Tyson?

Alvarez had trace amounts of clenbuterol in his system in February, well in advance of when his camp for the Golovkin rematch was going to start. Whether it got there from eating bad steak tacos or from getting needles stuck in him (from what I've been able to find clenbuterol basically dissipates by 90% every 4 days in your system, and there's info for the dose needed to really do anything), what "Tyson-like" benefit can you get from taking a fat burner and bronchodilator during pre-camp?

You're being too serious about that sentence:
"GGG in his last fight beat 8 rounds to 4 a Tyson built like roided Nelo LOL"

And I will ask you to take into account the "LOL" before we go into some pharmaceutic debates.

Tyson built, man, Nelo has been built like a linebacker since the Chavez fight.

[Scipio2009]

You're being too serious about that sentence:
"GGG in his last fight beat 8 rounds to 4 a Tyson built like roided Nelo LOL"

And I will ask you to take into account the "LOL" before we go into some pharmaceutic debates.

Tyson built, man, Nelo has been built like a linebacker since the Chavez fight.

Exactly.
Alvarez walked into the ring for the Trout fight at an unofficial 170lbs, so it's not like he's just magically gaining mass. That's all I'm saying.

Until I see something different, clenbuterol is a PED in the same way that hydrochlorothiazide is a PED; clearly and rightfully illegal but not really seeming as something that actually helps you fight better. Heck, EPO is a far worse compound when talking about actually affecting a fight.

Sloppy or not, Alvarez basically was able to fight what amounted to a 50/50 fight because, even though the stamina issues are still what they are, he had the proper tactics to both control the fight and negate what Golovkin would want to do; force Golovkin to consistently reset his feet, and fight where Golovkin doesn't like to fight (in Alvarez's case, fighting on the inside).

Charlo has the skills to do the same thing with better success (he doesn't seem to have stamina issues), and he's got the craft to also catch Golovkin with something massive were he to slip.

[just the facts]

The state of some of the comments on here lol, what happened to actually proving yourself. How can u guys keep being so ****** and not factoring in opposition.

Kinda of a bold statement for someone who was posting how lil g was an ATF, HOFer, and would beat Hagler, Monzon and Robinson before he actually fought a quality opponent (Jacobs).

[BillyBoxing]

Exactly.
Alvarez walked into the ring for the Trout fight at an unofficial 170lbs, so it's not like he's just magically gaining mass. That's all I'm saying.

Until I see something different, clenbuterol is a PED in the same way that hydrochlorothiazide is a PED; clearly and rightfully illegal but not really seeming as something that actually helps you fight better. Heck, EPO is a far worse compound when talking about actually affecting a fight.

Sloppy or not, Alvarez basically was able to fight what amounted to a 50/50 fight because, even though the stamina issues are still what they are, he had the proper tactics to both control the fight and negate what Golovkin would want to do; force Golovkin to consistently reset his feet, and fight where Golovkin doesn't like to fight (in Alvarez's case, fighting on the inside).

Charlo has the skills to do the same thing with better success (he doesn't seem to have stamina issues), and he's got the craft to also catch Golovkin with something massive were he to slip.

When it comes to skill Canelo is a much more experienced, crafty, tricky, complete fighter than Charlo.
Nelo has gotten a lot better since the Trout fight, he peaked vs Cotto skillwise IMO.

On the other hand, Charlo is more athletic than Nelo, his stamina is OK and he has longer arms.

Charlo is not a superior boxer than Canelo. I mean, there is nothing that should make me think such a statement.

And Canelo didn't fight 50/50 with GGG.
People need to stop that sht, I had 8 rounds to 4 and I firmly disagree with a draw. Most boxing insiders felt the same.

Like Paulie said, if you had Canelo winning then you're full of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnJheyEisD8&t=397s

[Lomadeaux]

How can a Charlo beat GGG? Seriously?

[STREET CLEANER]

I’d lean towards Charlo, not confidently, but I’d pick him. Realistically this fight won’t happen for another year after Vanes, Canelo and Saunders. Two more tough fights and a declining older GGG would struggle with a Charlo. Maybe I’m wrong, be fine if I was, would love to see the fight.

One of GGGs biggest assets, iron chin, will be his downfall at this point in his career. He was able to throw caution to wind and eat punches to land punches. He didn’t need to improve his defense and as he gets older he wouldn’t be able to pull the trigger when opening arise like he could when he was younger.

I agree with your post

[b00g13man]

truth is charlo is an unproven nobody and hes not getting a payday. saunders and canelo are much bigger and better fights.

Unsurprisingly, this assclown has flip-flopped yet again. Such a terrible poster.

[Madison Boxing]

Unsurprisingly, this assclown has flip-flopped yet again. Such a terrible poster.

Takes one to know one mate....

[b00g13man]

Takes one to know one mate....

Lol. Weak retort.

[Scipio2009]

When it comes to skill Canelo is a much more experienced, crafty, tricky, complete fighter than Charlo.
Nelo has gotten a lot better since the Trout fight, he peaked vs Cotto skillwise IMO.

On the other hand, Charlo is more athletic than Nelo, his stamina is OK and he has longer arms.

Charlo is not a superior boxer than Canelo. I mean, there is nothing that should make me think such a statement.

And Canelo didn't fight 50/50 with GGG.
People need to stop that sht, I had 8 rounds to 4 and I firmly disagree with a draw. Most boxing insiders felt the same.

Like Paulie said, if you had Canelo winning then you're full of it .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnJheyEisD8&t=397s

Golovkin was busy with his jab, but he didn't really dictate much of anything beyond that; score the fight however you, Alvarez was the fighter landing the cleaner and impactful blows and that's without much question. I scored the fight 7-5 Canelo, due to the cleaner work, and the outcome would've been even more clear in Canelo's direction if he didn't have to throw away those 2-3 rounds for fear of running out of gas.

I respect Paulie Malignaggi's opinion, but if you and him both want to argue that Golovkin won the fight going away, with nothing much more than a stay-busy jab, you're both mistaken.

Charlo still has things that he needs to develop, but Golovkin is already an old dog with no new tricks, and the holes in his game are clearly there to be exploited.

Golovkin is a shark; if he can get you on the run or simply press forward, he's dangerous from his one range.

The moment you force him to stop, or even have to back up, and Golovkin can't fight.

Charlo can fight long, is a nasty puncher on the inside, has enough craft to not run yet still be on the move, and is a nasty finisher when he can get you on a counter and in combination.