Comments Thread For: Jermall Charlo Demolishes Hugo Centeno in Two For Interim Belt

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Ahh i see, its just an underachievement thing that bugs you. Well,i can half agree, theres people id have liked to see him fight that he didnt. But lets count the fights he wouldve had if othet guys hadnt pulled out. So wed have had Canelo twice if he hadnt cheated, Jacobs, Pirog if he hadnt pulled out injured, we had Lemiuex,Murray,and wouldve had Eubank jr, all decent level Middleweights. I dont think thats a particularly bad run. Certainly not the worst in boxing. Id have liked Degale and co at supermiddle,but then id have liked Canelo to have fought a Charlo, a Andrade instead of Khan and Smith. I cant see the difference tbh.

adding names that Golovkin did not fight is pointless

Lemieux
Murray
Jacobs *
Canelo *

..... is not a great resume

the guy who said that he can beat anyone from 154-168..... should have fought Cotto AND Canelo, and he likely should have fought Andre Ward as well

it is not just the underachieving that bugs me

it is why he underachieved

intentionally fighting lower-level, made-to-order, guys, who were always going to be "available" throughout the fight..... and intentionally avoiding the mover/spoilers

you guys can pretend that the Derevyanchenko duck for Vanes is totally out of character, but I know better

fought Adama, instead of Mora - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Monroe, instead of Lara - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Wade/Brook, instead of Ward - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Rubio/Murray, instead of Cotto - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Wade/Brook, instead of BJS - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Vanes, instead of Derev - citing a bunch of silly excuses

TIP: what gave it away, were the ABSURD excuses they gave

silly excuses, that were obviously rubbish

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adding names that Golovkin did not fight is pointless

Lemieux
Murray
Jacobs *
Canelo *

..... is not a great resume

the guy who said that he can beat anyone from 154-168..... should have fought Cotto AND Canelo, and he likely should have fought Andre Ward as well

it is not just the underachieving that bugs me

it is why he underachieved

intentionally fighting lower-level, made-to-order, guys, who were always going to be "available" throughout the fight..... and intentionally avoiding the mover/spoilers

you guys can pretend that the Derevyanchenko duck for Vanes is totally out of character, but I know better

fought Adama, instead of Mora - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Monroe, instead of Lara - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Wade/Brook, instead of Ward - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Rubio/Murray, instead of Cotto - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Wade/Brook, instead of BJS - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Vanes, instead of Derev - citing a bunch of silly excuses

TIP: what gave it away, were the ABSURD excuses they gave

silly excuses, that were obviously rubbish

Well lets see it for what it is. Pirog, Eubank and Canelo 2 were blatently not Golovkins fault, so hes resume would look abit better through no fault of hes own. I get you wanted him to fight Cotto at a catch weight, but then surely he couldve fought Ward at 164 in that case. Not sure that the talk of Lara was ever more than just talk, and i have no way of knowing whether Dervaychenko really wanted the may 5th fight or it was just a story in an article. I just dont get why you reserve the special hate for Golovkin over lets say Canelo who cheated everyone out of the rematch, and still wont submit to proper drug testing, and who ignored all the real threats at hes own weight like the Charlos and Andrade to fight Smith and Khan. Or why you slate fights like Lemieux or Murray, but laud Saunders for fighting them down the line, when Jacobs, Charlo ect are calling him out. Just abit inconsistent to me but there you go.

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Well lets see it for what it is. Pirog, Eubank and Canelo 2 were blatently not Golovkins fault, so hes resume would look abit better through no fault of hes own. I get you wanted him to fight Cotto at a catch weight, but then surely he couldve fought Ward at 164 in that case. Not sure that the talk of Lara was ever more than just talk, and i have no way of knowing whether Dervaychenko really wanted the may 5th fight or it was just a story in an article. I just dont get why you reserve the special hate for Golovkin over lets say Canelo who cheated everyone out of the rematch, and still wont submit to proper drug testing, and who ignored all the real threats at hes own weight like the Charlos and Andrade to fight Smith and Khan. Or why you slate fights like Lemieux or Murray, but laud Saunders for fighting them down the line, when Jacobs, Charlo ect are calling him out. Just abit inconsistent to me but there you go.

that is just dribble, excuse-making dribble

1) he is his fkn mandatory
2) he is screaming for that fight, including refusing to accept step-aside money
3) making excuses for the Derevy duck tells me whats up

enjoy the Murata fight lol

you can get back to me with your latest set of excuses then

once again.....

fought Adama, instead of Mora - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Monroe, instead of Lara - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Wade/Brook, instead of Ward - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Rubio/Murray, instead of Cotto - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Wade/Brook, instead of BJS - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Vanes, instead of Derev - citing a bunch of silly excuses

and once again.....

what gave it away, were the ABSURD excuses they gave..... especially the matching set of excuses they used for Ward/Lara/Mora

they have obviously avoided mover-spoilers

be that cuck if you wish, no skin off my nose

[aboutfkntime]

Hypekin's Order of Faithful Defenders are like religious extremists lol

obediently paving the way for the Murata fight they know will happen

[Mindgames]

that is just dribble, excuse-making dribble

1) he is his fkn mandatory
2) he is screaming for that fight, including refusing to accept step-aside money
3) making excuses for the Derevy duck tells me whats up

enjoy the Murata fight lol

you can get back to me with your latest set of excuses then

once again.....

fought Adama, instead of Mora - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Monroe, instead of Lara - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Wade/Brook, instead of Ward - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Rubio/Murray, instead of Cotto - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Wade/Brook, instead of BJS - citing a bunch of silly excuses
fought Vanes, instead of Derev - citing a bunch of silly excuses

and once again.....

what gave it away, were the ABSURD excuses they gave..... especially the matching set of excuses they used for Ward/Lara/Mora

they have obviously avoided mover-spoilers

be that cuck if you wish, no skin off my nose

I thought you might have insider knowledge but your just going off Derevyanchenko talking to the press? I know hes the mandatory, im talking about hes real life willingness to step in may 5th. Saying you would and meaning it arent exactly the same are they? Like i say, he woudve been fighting Canelo may 5th but Canelo cheated, and you seem to have alot less to say about him, you like Saunders and like hes performances against guys Golovkin beat and now hes fighting an older more shopworn version of the same guy that you didnt like Golovkin fighting years ago, but Saunders is this heroic figure in your mind for some reason i cant compute and you cant elaborate on. Its just odd how zeroed in on the guy you are, nothing to say on Canelo actually pulling out, Saunders taking weak defences against Golovkin leftovers, think Golovkin shouldve took catchweight for Cotto but Ward shouldn't take one for Golovkin. You seem one pointed when it comes to all this. I mean, yeah, the anyone from 54 to 68 talk was hyperbole, but so was Ward and Hunter talking Joshua, Mayweather talking Golovkin Hopkins talking Haye blah ect. But something special sticks in your tooth with this GGG guy lol. Does face remind you of someone or something? 🤔

[aboutfkntime]

I thought you might have insider knowledge but your just going off Derevyanchenko talking to the press? I know hes the mandatory, im talking about hes real life willingness to step in may 5th. Saying you would and meaning it arent exactly the same are they? Like i say, he woudve been fighting Canelo may 5th but Canelo cheated, and you seem to have alot less to say about him, you like Saunders and like hes performances against guys Golovkin beat and now hes fighting an older more shopworn version of the same guy that you didnt like Golovkin fighting years ago, but Saunders is this heroic figure in your mind for some reason i cant compute and you cant elaborate on. Its just odd how zeroed in on the guy you are, nothing to say on Canelo actually pulling out, Saunders taking weak defences against Golovkin leftovers, think Golovkin shouldve took catchweight for Cotto but Ward shouldn't take one for Golovkin. You seem one pointed when it comes to all this. I mean, yeah, the anyone from 54 to 68 talk was hyperbole, but so was Ward and Hunter talking Joshua, Mayweather talking Golovkin Hopkins talking Haye blah ect. But something special sticks in your tooth with this GGG guy lol. Does face remind you of someone or something? 🤔

you have absolutely no idea

this is how real life works.....

if you don't call his " bluff ", then you don't get to see his hand..... and you certainly don't get to guess

Derevyanchenko stated that he was willing to fight Golovkin, and he refused to accept a step-aside fee..... whereas, Golovkin refused to even consider fighting Derevyanchenko

fans of the guy who ran the other way, do not get to put words into Derevyanchenko's mouth

Golovkin has NEVER lifted a finger to make a meaningful fight..... Derevyanchenko could do, and by all reports would do

the fact that Golovkin was unwilling to fight, cannot be used as justification to assume that Derevyanchenko was unwilling to fight

let me give you an example.....

FACT: Golovkin has refused to lift his little finger to make a meaningful fight, we already know that..... and yet you guys accuse Martinez and even Sturm of ducking him..... based on the fact above, that we already know Golovkin could not make a meaningful fight if his life depended on it..... so would he really have fought Martinez, and Sturm?..... or is that just more g,g,g-rubbish?

see how that works ?

you have no justification whatsoever for using that weak excuse

because Gennady will not take meaningful fights..... you guys need to resort to insisting that he would, while you also insist that the other guys would not..... which is a funny way for a fighter to carve his legacy

I prefer the way real fighters do it

[aboutfkntime]

you have absolutely no idea

and yet..... you said it anyway lol

excuse
making
muppet

[Mindgames]

you have absolutely no idea

this is how real life works.....

if you don't call his " bluff ", then you don't get to see his hand..... and you certainly don't get to guess

Derevyanchenko stated that he was willing to fight Golovkin, and he refused to accept a step-aside fee..... whereas, Golovkin refused to even consider fighting Derevyanchenko

fans of the guy who ran the other way, do not get to put words into Derevyanchenko's mouth

Golovkin has NEVER lifted a finger to make a meaningful fight..... Derevyanchenko could do, and by all reports would do

the fact that Golovkin was unwilling to fight, cannot be used as justification to assume that Derevyanchenko was unwilling to fight

let me give you an example.....

FACT: Golovkin has refused to lift his little finger to make a meaningful fight, we already know that..... and yet you guys accuse Martinez and even Sturm of ducking him..... based on the fact above, that we already know Golovkin could not make a meaningful fight if his life depended on it..... so would he really have fought Martinez, and Sturm?..... or is that just more g,g,g-rubbish?

see how that works ?

you have no justification whatsoever for using that weak excuse

because Gennady will not take meaningful fights..... you guys need to resort to insisting that he would, while you also insist that the other guys would not..... which is a funny way for a fighter to carve his legacy

I prefer the way real fighters do it

Im saying how do you know that Derva was willing to step in on May 5th,other than someone saying so in the press? Im not saying he would or wouldnt because i don't know, im saying how do you know that the guy was willing to take hes big chance on three weeks notice? After all hes number one contender. Btw all the stuff you said about Martinez and Sturm doesn't apply to me because ive never commented on them. This "you guys" mentality seems to make you incapable of a debate. Instead of referring to fictional stuff and me being part of a collective thinking whatever you think "they" do, how about, for once, responding to what i asked you? Why is Canelo not the subject of your ire since he pulled out the fight. The meaningful fight that Golovkin was taking? Why are Golovkins defences meaningless, but when Saunders fights the same guys who are further worn do you hype him up? What about him lining up Murray, not as a stand in, but as a defence, first choice? Why no criticism? Answer the questions, dont be a chicken lol.

[aboutfkntime]

Im saying how do you know that Derva was willing to step in on May 5th,other than someone saying so in the press? Im not saying he would or wouldnt because i don't know, im saying how do you know that the guy was willing to take hes big chance on three weeks notice? After all hes number one contender. Btw all the stuff you said about Martinez and Sturm doesn't apply to me because ive never commented on them. This "you guys" mentality seems to make you incapable of a debate. Instead of referring to fictional stuff and me being part of a collective thinking whatever you think "they" do, how about, for once, responding to what i asked you? Why is Canelo not the subject of your ire since he pulled out the fight. The meaningful fight that Golovkin was taking? Why are Golovkins defences meaningless, but when Saunders fights the same guys who are further worn do you hype him up? What about him lining up Murray, not as a stand in, but as a defence, first choice? Why no criticism? Answer the questions, dont be a chicken lol.

1) that is correct, you don't know
2) Gennady burned your right to speculate

Derevyanchenko stated that he was willing to fight Golovkin, and he refused to accept a step-aside fee..... whereas, Golovkin refused to even consider fighting Derevyanchenko

fans of the guy who ran the other way, do not get to put words into Derevyanchenko's mouth

Golovkin has NEVER lifted a finger to make a meaningful fight..... Derevyanchenko could do, and by all reports would do

the fact that Golovkin was unwilling to fight, cannot be used as justification to assume that Derevyanchenko was unwilling to fight

that is just a weak childish excuse man, don't know how you can't see it

like I said.....

you have no justification whatsoever for using that weak excuse

because of the fact that Gennady will not take meaningful fights..... you guys need to resort to insisting that he would, while you also insist that the other guys would not..... which is a funny way for a fighter to carve his legacy

I prefer the way real fighters do it

I just see your argument as bottom-level excuse-making, not even creative or original..... kids stuff really...... you are literally saying "prove it, nyah nyah nyah"..... and yet the guy who you are defending chose not to prove it lol

your guy had a lifetime to step up, and we are still waiting..... but now you need to run around insisting that other guys will not

that is cheap, and lame

[Mindgames]

1) that is correct, you don't know
2) Gennady burned your right to speculate

Derevyanchenko stated that he was willing to fight Golovkin, and he refused to accept a step-aside fee..... whereas, Golovkin refused to even consider fighting Derevyanchenko

fans of the guy who ran the other way, do not get to put words into Derevyanchenko's mouth

Golovkin has NEVER lifted a finger to make a meaningful fight..... Derevyanchenko could do, and by all reports would do

the fact that Golovkin was unwilling to fight, cannot be used as justification to assume that Derevyanchenko was unwilling to fight

that is just a weak childish excuse man, don't know how you can't see it

like I said.....

you have no justification whatsoever for using that weak excuse

because of the fact that Gennady will not take meaningful fights..... you guys need to resort to insisting that he would, while you also insist that the other guys would not..... which is a funny way for a fighter to carve his legacy

I prefer the way real fighters do it

I just see your argument as bottom-level excuse-making, not even creative or original..... kids stuff really...... you are literally saying "prove it, nyah nyah nyah"..... and yet the guy who you are defending chose not to prove it lol

your guy had a lifetime to step up, and we are still waiting..... but now you need to run around insisting that other guys will not

that is cheap, and lame

Whats really lame is that you seem unable to explain why your position on Golovkin is not matched by your position on other fighters. If Golovkin doesnt take meaningful fights what was he fighting Canelo again for? You know Saul pulled out right? You know Saunders is fighting hes retreads, but you rate him for it. You cant seem to explain your double standards, and never seem to respond to any questions. We got Golovkin fighting Jacobs and Canelo and Canelo again if he hadnt pulled out. We got Saunders fighting Monroe, Lemiuex and now lining Murray up twice, and your ok with this, mark him down as a warrior.Abit hypocritical, high standards and all that, but only as regards to certain people me old buddy.