Wilder waiting until Joshua-Povetkin is signed then will start talking.

[Just looking]

The teams are in talk, if a counter-offer wasn't send is because Hearn isn't giving the information needed (Joshua himself said the first fight have to be in UK and Hearn has the data needed to make projections, not Wilder's team) or they are just putting the details in place and the sit down will be just to sign

[SAINTSTEVE]

Where's your source. Oh right there isn't one. This is just a pointless speculation thread.

[creekrat77]

Wilder's side deserves a 30% take. Think about it this way.

Wilder will have to travel to a foreign country and fight on their turf.

Wilder holds the WBC strap.

Wilder has an Olympic pedigree winning the Bronze metal.

Wilder, on paper, has an amazing unblemished resume.

Joshua needs Wilder if he doesn't want to put a ceiling on possible career earnings.

Even though a garbage performance, Wilder did just stop Ortiz. Outside of Povetkin, retired-Wlad, Fury and Joshua, that was a big name to beat.

[Raggamuffin]

What about Wilder then? They've yet to send a counter offer and DiBella has basically said he won't bother because he doesn't think they legitimately want to fight. How the **** does that fly in your head?

Even if Hearn is indeed not being fair (which he isn't because a flat fee deal is a joke) and not offering more the fact that DiBella has pretty much closed up shop with regards to the possibility of making the fight speaks volumes. Yet in your head this is all on Joshua? If the fight doesn't get made next then it is JUST AS MUCH on Wilder and his team than it is on Joshua and Hearn.

Everybody that is a real boxing fan acknowledges that Hearn's flat fee offer was bull**** but everybody that is a real boxing fan will also accept that the fact that Wilder's team haven't even attempted to get Hearn up from that is also bull****.

My bet is you can't accept that.

There is no onus on Wilder. He told Joshua that he would come to the UK and you can have the A side.

You don't know what is going on with either side. All you know is that Hearn sent a B.S offer and that's it.

I believe that the Headvetkin fight was made as soon as Joshua beat Parker. They just waited to see how much damage control there would be if Joshua won a boring decision again. Once that "boring backlash" had settled down...they came up with a plan to avoid Wilder.

Edward and Anthony have a few days left to do something, otherwise he will be exorcized from the boxing world in my book on grounds of being a "****en "coward"!

[Curt Henning]

The teams are in talk, if a counter-offer wasn't send is because Hearn isn't giving the information needed (Joshua himself said the first fight have to be in UK and Hearn has the data needed to make projections, not Wilder's team) or they are just putting the details in place and the sit down will be just to sign

people overlook this little piece of info....if its in the UK, which joshua insists, its hard for wilders people to make correct projections.....

[MaksBox]

Wilder does not want the fight right now away. It is too much risk for him.

Even if he does get the $12 million, if he lost to AJ, that is it, game over for Wilder. No one will give a crap about him... it is like Barrera losing to Bivol. lol.

For AJ, even if he lost to Wilder, he would still sell out stadiums.

But wilder is managed by idiots trying to protect their fabled cash cow. The only way Haymon/DiBella let Wilder fight AJ will be in 2 or 3 years once the fight is fully marinated into the Pac vs May issue or GGG vs Canela.

[Sid-Knee]

Isn't this what Deontay does every time though? Why is anyone surprised by this?

[Sid-Knee]

How exactly does Wilder negotiate a lowball flat fee take it or leave it FINAL OFFER? Flat fees are how A sides try to cheat B sides on giant fights. Mayweather offered Pacquiao a lowball flat fee of 40 million and Pacquiao turned it down and ended up making over 100 million on a percentage deal. Oscar tried to rip off GGG with a low flat fee for the Canelo fight and GGG turned it down and made over twice as much on a percentage deal. Team AJ deliberately made Wilder a lousy final offer they knew would be turned down so they could say they made an offer but Wilder turned it down. If AJ really wanted to fight Wilder he would have offered Wilder a 35% share of the money available to pay the 2 fighters and take a 65% share for himself. Wilder would probably have excepted that. Wilder would have been a fool to take a flat fee of 12.5 million for such a huge fight. Wilder's only crime is not being foolish and holding out for fair pay.

Are you putting Wilder in the same league as Pac and Golovkin? Haha. He's nowhere near to those guys.

What happened to the counter offer that Wilder's side were supposedly putting together? It's been a week now, man.

[Sid-Knee]

I am not a Wilder fan at all and I have criticized him many times for defending his title against unworthy challengers. I know he is no coward and sincerely wants to fight AJ in England if he is paid fairly. AJ is the one preventing a fight between himself and Wilder from happening by refusing to pay Wilder his fair share of the money when Wilder is a champion and half the reason this fight is so huge.

You think over 12.5 Million is fair for a guy who makes 1.5 Million a fight?

You're living in dream world.

[Sid-Knee]

Anthony and Edward have a few days left before they are exorcized from the boxing world by me. Just be aware of that Anthony PR reps.

Once I stop saying your name on boxing forums, the lack of respect will only get worse and worse. You'll see. Look at Ottke and Bowe. This has nothing to do with his health or family. I never wish harm or death on fighters. But their careers usually come to a crashing halt.

Edward and Anthony, you have a few days left. Make the Wilder fight or live in boxing infamy for eternity.

****en coward.

Fighters careers come to a crashing halt because you don't have any respect for them?

Haha, you're a weirdo on a forum who no one gives a **** about. You're hideously delusional aren't you? Haha.

Nutter.