IF Fatzeale Rumours are true?

[Raggamuffin]

6 times his highest payday actually. But agreed with the rest.



How can you say AJ doesn't want to make a fight? His team have put forward and offer. Wilders tram can claim its too low for them, fine, then why not counter? They said they would so why sign to fight another mid negotiation?

Facts are fact, they don't need interpretation or jumps of logic. Whereas people like you do.

The only facts that you have are that Hearn and Joshua made a bogus offer.

And mental delinquents like you ate that **** up knowing that you didn’t want GG or Pac to take a flat fee.

How do you know that they haven’t sent a counter offer? I mean Hearn says in one breath he heard Wilder is fighting Breazeale and in the same breath he’s coming to meet with Haymons reps next week.

You don’t know wtf is going on until it’s released on social media lmao.

[Rip Chudd]

Racially biased? Both Joshua and Wilder are black

[soul_survivor]

Racially biased? Both Joshua and Wilder are black

There is a difference in the minds of black Americans between a Brit black and an American black.

[soul_survivor]

Your thread topic poses a big "IF," so why are you talking about facts?

What fact has been presented here except that Joshua's team offered a deal so terrible that it has caused numerous people to have the opinion that they are ducking the fight.

Like I said, if this is true BUT I have simply stated facts in my assessment of what has gone on between AJ and Wilder.

Wilder was offered 6x his highest payday = FACT

Wilder's team claimed it was a take it or leave it offer, with a 48 hour deadline, yet that turned out to be false = FACT

Wilder's team stated they would make a counter offer, it has been over a week and nothing in return = FACT

Wilder's team stated it was a $100 million dollar fight = FACT

AJ stated if that is the case, he would take 50/50 = FACT

AJ and his team have put together a contract where a rematch clause, regardless of AJ winning, will be in the US = FACT

The above is what Wilder wanted = FACT

Wilder has not reacted to the contract and offered a rebuttal = FACT

Brazeale is a terrible opponent and worse than Povetkin, Pulev, Takam, Parker and Whyte = FACT

Need I continue?

[juggernaut666]

when Povetkin pisses dirty and Stiverne II is ordered
"WHAT A JOKE!! WHY DIDN'T WILDER HAVE A BACKUP SIGNED LIKE AJ DID WHEN PULEV GOT HURT?!?"
When Wilder says he will fight Breazeale if he doesn't get AJ
"WHAT A JOKE!! HE'S DUCKING!! WHY DO YOU NEED A BACKUP FIGHT?!?"

Stiverne wasnt ordered when Povetkin was cancelled .

Wilder HAND picked Arreola , who wasnt even ranked at the time he did so and on top of that gave him approximately 3 weeks to train for it . lol


When Joshua fought Breazeale all you fanatics criticised him and labled him a fat punching bag . ( Unike Arreola and Stiverne . lol )

As predictable as ever , here you guys are now in full damage control mode .


I know one thing Wilder isnt going to make this fight look so easy like Joshua did , he MAY even lose ? How smart will he look then , he'll never see any 12 plus Million payday ?

[Rip Chudd]

There is a difference in the minds of black Americans between a Brit black and an American black.

I'm a black American. I see them both as black, there is no difference as far as race. British culture vs American then yeah, but race wise, no

[Sparked_26]

It's not awful. A defence against the Novicey polish lad would be an absolute scandal

[soul_survivor]

Stiverne wasnt ordered when Povetkin was cancelled .

Wilder HAND picked Arreola , who wasnt even ranked at the time he did so and on top of that gave him approximately 3 weeks to train for it . lol


When Joshua fought Breazeale all you fanatics criticised him and labled him a fat punching bag . ( Unike Arreola and Stiverne . lol )

As predictable as ever , here you guys are now in full damage control mode .


I know one thing Wilder isnt going to make this fight look so easy like Joshua did , he MAY even lose ? How smart will he look then , he'll never see any 12 plus Million payday ?

I said moobzilla was a pretty rubbish opponent back when AJ was fighting him but that was the champ's 16th pro fight...Wilder in his 40 something fight is fighting an opponent who is probably fatter and worse now than he was back then.

Then again, I have no bias and am consistent.

As you said, these same idiots were posting about how terrible fatzeale was and making fun of his physique...now 2 fights later he is supposedly a worthy title contender.

See how red prick and company have avoided the thread.

[travestyny]

Like I said, if this is true BUT I have simply stated facts in my assessment of what has gone on between AJ and Wilder.

Wilder was offered 6x his highest payday = FACT

Wilder's team claimed it was a take it or leave it offer, with a 48 hour deadline, yet that turned out to be false = FACT

Wilder's team stated they would make a counter offer, it has been over a week and nothing in return = FACT

Wilder's team stated it was a $100 million dollar fight = FACT

AJ stated if that is the case, he would take 50/50 = FACT

AJ and his team have put together a contract where a rematch clause, regardless of AJ winning, will be in the US = FACT

The above is what Wilder wanted = FACT

Wilder has not reacted to the contract and offered a rebuttal = FACT

Brazeale is a terrible opponent and worse than Povetkin, Pulev, Takam, Parker and Whyte = FACT

Need I continue?

AJ and team didn't offer any of his other opponents a flat fee. = FACT

Eddie Hearn stated that this fight is potentially a $100 million fight himself = FACT

Negotiations are still ongoing = FACT


Keep beliving that things you have no knowledge of or whatever you get from Eddie Hearn is a fact. I have two simple questions for you:

Why is Wilder being offered a flat fee but no other opponent was? What's the logic behind that?

[soul_survivor]

AJ and team didn't offer any of his other opponents a flat fee. = FACT

Eddie Hearn stated that this fight is potentially a $100 million fight himself = FACT

Negotiations are still ongoing = FACT


Keep beliving that things you have no knowledge of or whatever you get from Eddie Hearn is a fact. I have two simple questions for you:

Why is Wilder being offered a flat fee but no other opponent was? What's the logic behind that?

Flat fee or not Finkel said they were preparing a counter offer...which it turns out is fighting someone else lol

Can you show me where Hearn guaranteed it was a $100 million dollar fight? Cos I can show you a video where he states it is too risky to label it a $100 mill fight and better to do more conservative estimations. The $100 million figure is a translation of a figure written about in the british media (£60-75 million in one newspaper). It has no ground reality.

Negotiations are only ongoing because AJ and his team have actually put up an offer.

Isn't it embarrassing having to twist logic to make your opinion count?

If you see my argument, it is based on logic and fact. I don't even bother using my personal opinion on this.