Where do you rank the Usyk-Gassiev winner¿

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  • BM dnobagaV
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    #1

    Where do you rank the Usyk-Gassiev winner¿

    Not just on a P4P list, but as all-time cruisers? Undefeated, undisputed champions.


    I know it'll depend on what happens after for them & their opponents.. both might go to HW... both could pull a Holyfield, but even if they don't continue fighting at CW, where would you put them?
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    #2
    I don’t know about all time but definitely top 3 P4P

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #3
      If usyk wins you have to consider him top 3 p4p imo. He then beats ledbedev then he imo is a serious candidate for #1.

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      • chrisJS
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        #4
        Let's assume the fight plays out as we think and that it's a good competitive fight and the winner is clear and not disputed then I'd say Usyk should be no lower than 4 (behind Loma, Crawford & GGG) and Gassiev would be 4 or 5 also. Usyk has the better wins to date that's why he'd be a spot or two higher. I guess I have to see the fight but I'd probably have Usyk 3 and Gassiev 5. Right now I have Usyk 4-5 and Gassiev somewhere around 8-10.

        All-time at Cruiser? I think the winner would be a clear #2. Clearly behind Holyfield but clearly ahead of #3 which at the moment would probably be DeLeon.

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          #5
          Originally posted by chrisJS
          Let's assume the fight plays out as we think and that it's a good competitive fight and the winner is clear and not disputed then I'd say Usyk should be no lower than 4 (behind Loma, Crawford & GGG) and Gassiev would be 4 or 5 also. Usyk has the better wins to date that's why he'd be a spot or two higher. I guess I have to see the fight but I'd probably have Usyk 3 and Gassiev 5. Right now I have Usyk 4-5 and Gassiev somewhere around 8-10.

          All-time at Cruiser? I think the winner would be a clear #2. Clearly behind Holyfield but clearly ahead of #3 which at the moment would probably be DeLeon.
          Way to low. Usyk should be 1 or 2.

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          • E-Thug
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            #6
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            If usyk wins you have to consider him top 3 p4p imo. He then beats ledbedev then he imo is a serious candidate for #1.
            What about if Gassiev wins? Wins over Wlodarczyk, Dorticos and Usyk plus holding every belt at CW surely has to merit a top 3 spot?

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            • chrisJS
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              #7
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              Way to low. Usyk should be 1 or 2.
              I can see an argument since he'd have a great claim given the caliber of wins and the winning of all four belts in an excellent division but in my p4p I do also factor in how highly I rate their overall skill set and how I feel they rate overall in terms of if they are all equal size who's best. In that sense I just can't see a case for him being a better fighter than Lomachenko or Crawford.

              I guess he'd be my #3 unless he is really dominant and one of those is in a close fight or two.

              Usyk is on the path to greatness. I hope if he wins this he sticks around and makes some defenses of the title. I want to see more of him at his peak before he moves up to a division where he will give away a lot of size.

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              • chrisJS
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                #8
                Originally posted by E-Thug
                What about if Gassiev wins? Wins over Wlodarczyk, Dorticos and Usyk plus holding every belt at CW surely has to merit a top 3 spot?
                Yup, also a win over Lebedev too is nothing to turn your nose up at. I have Gassiev in my current top 10 and with a win he'd be unquestionably top 5.

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                • Redd Foxx
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                  #9
                  All time is tough, as these guys haven't had a career worth of fights yet.
                  Top P4P right now, I might have either one above Golovkin, below Loma and Crawford.

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                  • Johnston
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                    #10
                    Whoever wins should be considered top 5 p4p, usy k probably a little higher if he wins. But i expect gassiev to win

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