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  • daggum
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    #111
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    1) Derev was sidelined for the Canelo fight
    2) the Canelo fight got canceled
    3) Golovkin still wants to avoid Derev

    pretty simple really

    this is EXACTLY what they did to Canelo, there is no difference whatsoever..... so of course Golovkin should be stripped

    the HUGE grand-canyon sized sense-of-entitlement for Golovkin..... is amusing
    i dont remember canelo beign forced to fight ggg on 3 weeks notice. see what i mean about credibility and making false equivalencies? its just sloppy to say its the same exact thing.

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #112
      Originally posted by daggum
      With DiBella's top fighter Sergio Martinez still the legitimate champion of the division, the question now, of course, is if or when we might see Martinez-Golovkin. Don't hold your breath, as DiBella says plainly that Golovkin is too dangerous for Martinez.

      you are trying to create something out of nothing. loeffler was just being political. they refused to even negotiate a fight so of course there was nothing to turn down. don't try to revise history

      you guys are absolute ass-holes

      who the fk are you to criticize a proven warrior like Martinez

      same with Cotto

      "He said Monday that, yes, he would be happy to fight Golovkin next year, as long as he gets one fight beforehand in his return from a knee injury.

      "Sergio Martinez reached out to [adviser] Sampson [Lewkowicz] and me," promoter Lou DiBella told ESPN.com. "He said that history will show that he has embraced every challenge available to him in his career. His legacy will be that he was always willing to fight the best. Right now, his concentration is on healing and rehabilitation, and he will not fight until sometime in the first half of 2014. But he wanted to make it clear that he is willing to fight Gennady Golovkin."

      Against Murray, Martinez re-injured the right knee that he hurt in his September win against Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Martinez later had surgery and came into the fight against Murray with the knee not fully healed.

      In fact, Lewkowicz told ESPN.com that Martinez probably will require a second surgery on the knee later this month. Surgery or not, Martinez won't fight until at least the spring. But after that, Martinez said Golovkin is very much in the picture.

      "Sergio is going to back Spain [where had his knee surgery last fall] and probably will have another operation in the middle of July," Lewkowicz said. "If everything works out, he will be back in March or April for a fight, and after that he can fight Golovkin. It would be a big pay-per-view in September of [2014]. By that time, Golovkin will be a bigger name and we can make it a pay-per-view and both of them will get a well-deserved payday."

      DiBella doesn't love the idea of making the fight, but said he would do it if it's what Martinez wants.

      "Sergio was very clear to his team, myself included, that he is willing to fight Golovkin," DiBella said. "But right now he's hurt and concentrating on rehabilitation. He fought Murray hurt the whole fight. It was a gut check and an extremely painful experience. His next fight will not be scheduled until the first half of 2014, and it wouldn't make sense to make his first fight back against Golovkin.

      "I feel protective of my fighter and I'm upset by people who rip him because they say he won't fight Golovkin. What the f--- are they talking about? Sergio is a great champion, so that pisses me off. He has never avoided anyone and wanted to make it clear he wouldn't avoid Golovkin. So in typical Sergio fashion, on the first business day after Golovkin's fight, he made it clear to us that he has no issue fighting Golovkin.
      "

      1) you have no idea whatsoever if Martinez would have fought Golovkin, had he beaten Cotto..... and no way had Golovkin done anything to push in front of Martinez's money fight

      2) you have no idea whatsoever if Cotto would have fought Golovkin, had he beaten Canelo..... Golovkin flatly refused to negotiate on weight with Cotto, and then ran around saying that he would like to fight at 154 but nobody will step up

      Golovkin gets bashed for two reasons..... 5-6 years of lies and bullshht that he has failed to back up..... and because of the way his fans throw MUCH BETTER fighters under a bus to defend his lies and bullshht

      it is clearly obvious that Hypekin is full-of-shht, a number of fighters have pulled his hoe card..... and yet still you fans happily bash much BETTER fighters smh

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      • aboutfkntime
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        #113
        Originally posted by Robi13
        QUESTion to all you ggg fans... is ggg ducking sd? Did canelo duck ggg when he vacated his title? It’s either yes to both questions or no to both questions. Go ahead, let me here your thoughts...

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        • daggum
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          #114
          GGG fight this #5 ranked guy in 3 weeks for short money or you are a duck!!! ward turns down career high payday to duck #1 guy HE NEVER DUCKED ANYONE!

          this is why you aren't taken seriously. its just a lack of self awareness and inability to argue a point coherently.

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            #115
            Originally posted by daggum
            you simply don't understand what you are posting i'm afraid. he didn't turn a fight down cause he refused to negotiate. i already posted quotes showing this but you ignored this so you could spin some evidence that you thikn disproves years of ducking, hundreds of articles, and many interviews to the contrary.
            Loeffler said the timing to make a GGG/Martinez fight was never right. Martinez never turned down the fight. The only time the timing would've been right is after the Cotto fight if Martinez won he had agreed to fight GGG. Stop making stuff up.

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              #116
              Originally posted by Bronx2245
              Thanks to you, I am watching Castano beat the brakes off Cedric Vitu right now! Castano is a BULLY! I don't know if he could do that to Hurd? Hurd is a BIG man! Now I really hate this Charlo vs. Trout fight! Castano vs. Lara, winner fights Hurd for the WBA title! Let's Go!
              I wish I knew the punch stats for that fight castaño treated vitu like a heavy bag and would not stop throwing at all. I feel Hurd is that volume punching guy but what if he fights someone that can throw more than him? It’s be an awesome fight though

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              • aboutfkntime
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                #117
                Originally posted by daggum
                no he hasn't. he blatantly ducked bute who was #1. let me guess that wasn't a duck but ggg not fighting dereychenko in 3 weeks is lmao. remember what i said about credibility? just imagine if ggg said hey dereychenko go fight canelo first and if you win then i'll fight you. you would go crazy...well you arent going to like this but thats what ward did! remember those low standards i mentioned earlier? this is proof you have them for some and then you have insanely high hater standards for others. fight this guy in 3 weeks for short money or you are a duck!!! ward turns down career high payday to duck #1 guy HE NEVER DUCKD ANYONE!

                nope

                he said.....

                1) Bute is a hypejob, and has done nothing to earn that fight
                2) beat any credible opponent and I will fight you

                and we all know what happened next

                btw, you could use the benefit of hindsight to avoid saying ****** things

                the guy who entered a knockout tourney beating studs like Kessler/Froch, and then stepped up to fight Kovalev..... did not duck a brittle guy who had never beaten a credible opponent

                Bute got SMASHED by Froch lol..... who Ward handled with one hand

                you knew ALL of those facts, but you chose to ignore them..... which is why I called you a ****house

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  i dont remember canelo beign forced to fight ggg on 3 weeks notice. see what i mean about credibility and making false equivalencies? its just sloppy to say its the same exact thing.


                  the WBC gave him a 15-day deadline LOL

                  again..... it is exactly the same, no question

                  btw, Hypekin had a full camp..... that excuse is ridiculous

                  let the record show.....

                  despite mentioning Ward, and other champions at 168..... fighters like Derev and Andrade are "too risky"

                  your boy has been writing cheques with his mouth that he cannot cash with his fists

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                  • Robi13
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by daggum
                    GGG fight this #5 ranked guy in 3 weeks for short money or you are a duck!!! ward turns down career high payday to duck #1 guy HE NEVER DUCKED ANYONE!

                    this is why you aren't taken seriously. its just a lack of self awareness and inability to argue a point coherently.
                    Ggg is a puzzy just like his puzzy hoe as.s fans if he don’t fight sd

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      GGG fight this #5 ranked guy in 3 weeks for short money or you are a duck!!! ward turns down career high payday to duck #1 guy HE NEVER DUCKED ANYONE!

                      this is why you aren't taken seriously. its just a lack of self awareness and inability to argue a point coherently.

                      lil'G had a full camp, Derev is the guy who would be taking that fight on short notice lol

                      so, the guy who was going to beat Andre Freakin Ward..... cannot fight a mid-level middleweight with only 10 fights under his belt because he is "too risky".....?

                      o, k, then.....

                      btw, you asked for this lol

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