Comments Thread For: WBC Prez: Mayweather Would Put Boxing at Risk With UFC Run

[7not8]

I dont think so. It's going to be sanctioned under UFC not boxing... This has nothing to do with boxing so the WBC shouldn't even chime in on the fact. If Mayweather were wanting it to be a WBC sanctioned event then I'm sure Gomez would be all over it and since ggg may not have a fight and Canelo is sidelined then I see what the griping is about! If anything, it will help our sport by exposing MMA fans to boxing...

[sportbuddha]

Honestly, Mayweather is getting old as f*k. Whatever he does shouldn't matter regardless. However there are still the casuals that don't understand age in sports and seeing that if Mayweather did lose in boxing, it equals the weaker of the two combat sports.

Both are different and we've heard it all a million times that if you are a mix martial artist fighting a pure boxer in his game, he's going to lose. The same will obviously hold the other way around as we've seen.

The thing is though because Mayweather is considered the "highest" level of boxing because of his wise business choices and undefeated record, the casuals would imagine that if the "highest" level of boxing was defeated in MMA, it means boxing is the lesser of combat disciplines...

I know what you mean, but I don’t think Mayweather will fight under MMA rules anyway so the comparison probably won’t be made.

Like everything’s he does, Mayweather will step into it in a no lose situation. He’s smart, he has always looked for small edges that give him the most likely chance of a win and then considers what the cost of losing his 0 is. That’s why for a while his number has been $100m. He seems to have landed on that as the price of his 0.

I truly believe if he gets $100m and loses his 0 he can live with it, but he’ll do everything he can to retain both and probably will.

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

I know what you mean, but I don’t think Mayweather will fight under MMA rules anyway so the comparison probably won’t be made.

He will fight under mma rules just as he did in boxing. He had no special rules in boxing especially when he was coming up through the ranks. He wasn’t even able to call the shots until after the De La Hoya fight. There has been numerous of fights he was expected to lose only for the detractors to make excuses after he won. Anytime you step in the ring you have a chance of losing

[HarvardBlue]

Mayweather is still the biggest name in boxing. He won't represent boxing if he fights in the UFC, he'll represent himself. If he looks bad it's on him alone.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

I hope it does, the sport needs to get rid of these dodgy sanctioners. It’d be a far better outcome to have a UFC boxing champion and another franchise and let them cross over. The shows would be better the schedule more predictable. These dinosaurs have to die.

While I agree that boxing needs a change, it would be a huge mistake for boxing to go completely WWE model. That's what I refer to describing combat sports that have a single person who runs the sport, with every one being under the same roof, like MMA. The right thing for boxing would be a hybrid of the old and the WWE model. A governing body comprised of the most trust worthy people involved directly with the sport. Continue to allow promoters, managers and sanctioning bodies, as well as state Athletic commissions to exist and operate BAU. The governing body will be more like a last resort, for instance, The governing body will step in if Wilder and AJ can't come to terms, and create a deal that they feel would be fare to both parties. If either of the boxers decline, they will be stripped and suspended. Governing board handles all investigations. Governing board can order fights, and once they do the fight cannot be declined. Boxing can continue to operate as it currently does, all that's needed is a check and balance that supersedes all. One man should not have that much power.

[pasawayako]

floIV is a diagrace in boxing.

[sportbuddha]

He will fight under mma rules just as he did in boxing. He had no special rules in boxing especially when he was coming up through the ranks. He wasn’t even able to call the shots until after the De La Hoya fight. There has been numerous of fights he was expected to lose only for the detractors to make excuses after he won. Anytime you step in the ring you have a chance of losing

He won’t, wait and see. The only way he fights in an octagon under MMA rules is if the fight is fixed, I don’t think anyone of his wealth seriously wants to get in a cage for money, he’s proved to be a clever technician not a fighter many times over, so he won’t risk it unless there is some adaption that suits him.

I think you are suggesting I am one of his detractors, I definitely am not, definitely Top 10 if not 5 GOAT in the ring and a smart businessman outside.

By advantage in boxing, I was referring to when he was established, after De La Hoya he cleverly used his negotiating advantage to get the weights he wanted or the gloves or the weigh-in schedule or rehydration. In reality these slim % margins were mostly psychological. Everyone needed his pay dirt so they were always the B side and unlike greats that went before him like Louis and Robinson, Mayweather pulled every lever, not because he needed to, but he could and for me it’s one of the least recognised parts of his game. Not only was he technically superior to other boxers his (and his teams) knowledge of the business was ahead also.

[sportbuddha]

While I agree that boxing needs a change, it would be a huge mistake for boxing to go completely WWE model. That's what I refer to describing combat sports that have a single person who runs the sport, with every one being under the same roof, like MMA. The right thing for boxing would be a hybrid of the old and the WWE model. A governing body comprised of the most trust worthy people involved directly with the sport. Continue to allow promoters, managers and sanctioning bodies, as well as state Athletic commissions to exist and operate BAU. The governing body will be more like a last resort, for instance, The governing body will step in if Wilder and AJ can't come to terms, and create a deal that they feel would be fare to both parties. If either of the boxers decline, they will be stripped and suspended. Governing board handles all investigations. Governing board can order fights, and once they do the fight cannot be declined. Boxing can continue to operate as it currently does, all that's needed is a check and balance that supersedes all. One man should not have that much power.

Yeah, good points. I wasn’t suggesting there should be one franchise like the UFC, I was saying there should be multiple franchises that are better organised and under one ‘World Boxing Authority’ (although I suspect that acronym is taken ;0).

The current model is ripe for massive disruption, the mass appeal can never be achieved until there is more transarency. Ask most highly casual fans and they’ll tell you that all the various trinket belts ruin boxing and they can’t keep track of who is best.

The Manny vs Floyd fight was also a big blow for boxing, when news got out PAC was injured after the event, a lot of fans washed their hands of boxing for good, feeling they’d been duped and there was no authority to stop this happening.

[elfag]

WBC prez: "we really hope that if mayweather comes back for another $100 million+ purse fight, that it will be in boxing so we can make it for a chitty diamond belt and charge him a purse fee for it. If mayweather wants to do an MMA fight, we are looking at ways we can make a WBC MMA diamond belt him and conor could fight for with a 5% purse fee"

[bigdunny1]

He's only saying this because he can't get a sanction fee or be involved if this fight goes to a UFC cage.