So where is Wilder team's counter offer?

[Raggamuffin]

If Team are going to take their time and put together a good counter offer then let’s wait and see, hopefully the American networks would help them and support them. Having all the belts in one place is very important and as much as Wilder claimed he doesn’t care about the financial side of things the truth is he cares. If he doesn’t then the fight would be signed tomorrow, so no one was ducking him after all.

Oh he cares because he wants to know how much the other guy is making. But why are they listening to the fighter? Wilder responds via social media to what his people take back to him.

They should be talking to Haymon, and Espinosa since they don’t like DiBella or Finkel. And they need to stop peeping what Wilder says on social media. Wilder doesn’t even hate or dislike Joshua.

[Ray*]

Oh he cares because he wants to know how much the other guy is making. But why are they listening to the fighter? Wilder responds via social media to what his people take back to him.

They should be talking to Haymon, and Espinosa since they don’t like DiBella or Finkel. And they need to stop peeping what Wilder says on social media. Wilder doesn’t even hate or dislike Joshua.

I really don’t care for all the little stuffs about whether Joshua or Wilder like or dislike each other to be honest, I think offers should be made before you accuse another boxer of ducking you. That I cared about because it’s malicious.

Fanboys don’t reason when it comes to making statements like that, they take it and run with it, Wilder use to claim Joshua was ducking him even when they have never made an offer to Joshua.

As a reasonable poster I myself questioned that, and this is the reason why am harder Wilder now. Because so far Joshua is in a position to accuse Wilder of ducking him, even though he has never come out and said it.

So for me am waiting to see what sort of offer they come back with to counter the Team Joshua offer.

[Raggamuffin]

I really don’t care for all the little stuffs about whether Joshua or Wilder like or dislike each other to be honest, I think offers should be made before you accuse another boxer of ducking you. That I cared about because it’s malicious.

Fanboys don’t reason when it comes to making statements like that, they take it and run with it, Wilder use to claim Joshua was ducking him even when they have never made an offer to Joshua.

As a reasonable poster I myself questioned that, and this is the reason why am harder Wilder now. Because so far Joshua is in a position to accuse Wilder of ducking him, even though he has never come out and said it.

So for me am waiting to see what sort of offer they come back with to counter the Team Joshua offer.

Some posters can tell the difference between guys who criticize whether it’s nationaliism or whatever reason and guys who keep it G. I combat **** riding of fighters. You can’t constantly brag about this guy being better than this guy and tear down the other guy who’s stats are just as good.

Once a flat fee was offered, it didn’t give Joshua a reason to say that a Wilder is ducking imo.

I think that we both know why they offered a flat fee. It’s a smart move. But it’s just the start of negotiations. There will be more offers and counter offers until this gets done.

[AddiX]

Some posters can tell the difference between guys who criticize whether it’s nationaliism or whatever reason and guys who keep it G. I combat **** riding of fighters. You can’t constantly brag about this guy being better than this guy and tear down the other guy who’s stats are just as good.

Once a flat fee was offered, it didn’t give Joshua a reason to say that a Wilder is ducking imo.

I think that we both know why they offered a flat fee. It’s a smart move. But it’s just the start of negotiations. There will be more offers and counter offers until this gets done.

Wilder has never sold a ppv, and isn't a big draw, his management/promoter have spent very little $/time building his name up, because they are notoriously cheap.

Joshua on the other hand he's been built up to be a star and his events prove that. He also took the chance of fighting klitschko when wilder decided not to, and now Joshua is enjoying the spoils of that.

Wilder doesn't really have much to negotiate with, he could miss out on this payday and never sniff one close to it again.

[firstborn]

Wilder has never sold a ppv, and isn't a big draw, his management/promoter have spent very little $/time building his name up, because they are notoriously cheap.

Joshua on the other hand he's been built up to be a star and his events prove that. He also took the chance of fighting klitschko when wilder decided not to, and now Joshua is enjoying the spoils of that.

Wilder doesn't really have much to negotiate with, he could miss out on this payday and never sniff one close to it again.

Let us be real, a fight between Joshua and Wilder is inevitable. Unless Fury makes a miraculous comeback, there is no one left at HW. Posturing aside, I'm sure both camps realize this.

Hopefully they don't drag it out like Mayweather/Pac.....

[Raggamuffin]

Wilder has never sold a ppv, and isn't a big draw, his management/promoter have spent very little $/time building his name up, because they are notoriously cheap.

Joshua on the other hand he's been built up to be a star and his events prove that. He also took the chance of fighting klitschko when wilder decided not to, and now Joshua is enjoying the spoils of that.

Wilder doesn't really have much to negotiate with, he could miss out on this payday and never sniff one close to it again.

It's like you guys have been trained to say the above, lmao.

I don't care how Joshua was built, I don't care how much he makes, and you have no idea how big ppv fights are made.

The only reason Joshua is even lowballing Wilder now is because he's receiving criticism for his last two boring ass performancs. If he really wanted the fight he wouldn't send a "flat fee" offer.

I believe that because he's a fighter that he wants the fight (Hearn doesn't care whether they fight or not) but I also believe that he and Hearn are greedy and don't care if they make the Wilder fight. They can't control Wilder. And the above post that you wrote tells me that also.

[Boksfan]

Let us be real, a fight between Joshua and Wilder is inevitable. Unless Fury makes a miraculous comeback, there is no one left at HW. Posturing aside, I'm sure both camps realize this.

Hopefully they don't drag it out like Mayweather/Pac.....

Bowe vs Lewis. Tell me how that fight went.

[AddiX]

It's like you guys have been trained to say the above, lmao.

I don't care how Joshua was built, I don't care how much he makes, and you have no idea how big ppv fights are made.

The only reason Joshua is even lowballing Wilder now is because he's receiving criticism for his last two boring ass performancs. If he really wanted the fight he wouldn't send a "flat fee" offer.

I believe that because he's a fighter that he wants the fight (Hearn doesn't care whether they fight or not) but I also believe that he and Hearn are greedy and don't care if they make the Wilder fight. They can't control Wilder. And the above post that you wrote tells me that also.

It costs money to build a star, takes time also, and takes risk.

Wilder did not do any of those things that Hearn/ Wilder did. Wilder wasn't constantly on tv and in the news giving interviews, and on tv shows like Joshua, wilder did not take the vlad fight, wilder did not build much of a national audience.

Wilder was pro way before Joshua, yet no one on his team ever tried to build him as a star.

Hence, why he's not a star and never sold a ppv. Joshua being in boring fights means nothing, Floyd was in boring fights for the last 8 years it didn't change nothing, so I don't know why you're u even try to bring that up.

[Raggamuffin]

It costs money to build a star, takes time also, and takes risk.

Wilder did not do any of those things that Hearn/ Wilder did. Wilder wasn't constantly on tv and in the news giving interviews, and on tv shows like Joshua, wilder did not take the vlad fight, wilder did not build much of a national audience.

Wilder was pro way before Joshua, yet no one on his team ever tried to build him as a star.

Hence, why he's not a star and never sold a ppv. Joshua being in boring fights means nothing, Floyd was in boring fights for the last 8 years it didn't change nothing, so I don't know why you're u even try to bring that up.

Floyd was in boring fights to you but he was never in boring fights to me. Your hero Pac was knocked out 3 times in exciting fights lmao. Pac never tried to unify any division did he? My bad you weren’t watching him then lmao.

And nothing that you say will deter the fact that Joshua is reluctant to fight Wilder. He can unify bogus titles and he can fight in front of his crowd. Their PPV over there is $25.00 lmao. What’s the hold up with Wilder? What’s your real criticism because you’re repeating yourself dead Pac fan. You're a dead Pac fan lmao.

You’re all dead and trying to jump in Joshua’s bandwagon lmao. Joshua is scared of Wilder. The funny thing you know it too lmao.

[uppercut510]

wilder has never sold a ppv, and isn't a big draw, his management/promoter have spent very little $/time building his name up, because they are notoriously cheap.

Joshua on the other hand he's been built up to be a star and his events prove that. He also took the chance of fighting klitschko when wilder decided not to, and now joshua is enjoying the spoils of that.

Wilder doesn't really have much to negotiate with, he could miss out on this payday and never sniff one close to it again.

neither did parker, and why didnt aj fight ortiz if you want to use the klits argument lets use that same argument for aj with ortiz, hearn promised ortiz the aj fight n then ditched him like a bad habit. Wilder is a champion with a belt he can negotiate and yes aj is the a side but if you negotiated with parker you can negotiate with wilder. Hopefully the fight is made but you guys are acting like aj is the hw mayweather calm down.