So where is Wilder team's counter offer?

[Eff Pandas]

Are B sides supposed to make offers? If I'm the A side I'm just LOLing at that "offer" coming in personally.

Which B sides have made deals in the past with big A sides anyway? I can't think of one off the top of my head.

[boliodogs]

Any offer Wilder's team makes has got to be better than the insulting offers AJ makes. AJ says I'll give you a flat fee of 12.5 million or you give me a flat fee of 50 million. If you think AJ should make over 4 times as much as Wilder then that is fair. I think Wilder should make at least half of what AJ makes and probably more than that. Since nobody knows what the monster fight will make flat fees should be out. They should make a percentage split of the profits available to pay the boxers. I think a split of somewhere between 60/40 and 65/35 in AJ's favor would be fair but clearly AJ doesn't think so and wants an 80/20 split in his favor.

[Vinnykin]

Any offer Wilder's team makes has got to be better than the insulting offers AJ makes. AJ says I'll give you a flat fee of 12.5 million or you give me a flat fee of 50 million. If you think AJ should make over 4 times as much as Wilder then that is fair. I think Wilder should make at least half of what AJ makes and probably more than that. Since nobody knows what the monster fight will make flat fees should be out. They should make a percentage split of the profits available to pay the boxers. I think a split of somewhere between 60/40 and 65/35 in AJ's favor would be fair but clearly AJ doesn't think so and wants an 80/20 split in his favor.

Genuine question - why do you think Wilder deserves 40% of the total revenue

[Boksfan]

Wilder will take what Joshua gives him. Boxer with no fans can't be picky.

[Stinger1]

Are B sides supposed to make offers? If I'm the A side I'm just LOLing at that "offer" coming in personally.

Which B sides have made deals in the past with big A sides anyway? I can't think of one off the top of my head.

Kell Brook v GGG?

[Rubber Ducky]

No sign of this counter offer they promised but it's still might come and we might not hear about the details for a day or two and simply declining a flat fee isn't a counter offer that's simply a refusal of the offered deal.

From what Finkel has said and what Hearn is saying he expects, it will likely just be the 60/40 demand with a rematch clause but put into writing for the first time rather than just being talk in the media. Of course Hearn will decline this and will then be expected to make a better counter offer which will include a split with a guaranteed minimum.

[Rubber Ducky]

Are B sides supposed to make offers? If I'm the A side I'm just LOLing at that "offer" coming in personally.

Which B sides have made deals in the past with big A sides anyway? I can't think of one off the top of my head.

Whyte being offered to fight Wilder is a clear example of a B-side fighter offering an A side fighter a deal. Whyte doesn't make what Wilder does.

Kell Brook offers to Golovkin and Khan another example of a B-side fighter who makes less offering the A-side a deal to fight them.

[Eff Pandas]

Kell Brook v GGG?

Yea that might be considered one. That was a super specific spot doe in that that wasn't even THE FIGHT. It only became the fight when the main guy wasn't playing ball & the same promoter who worked for that guy worked for the other guy. If Hearn isn't with Brook likely nothing happens here.

So yea I think that would be the rare occurrence a B side makes a play, but it was a highly lined up situation for that to have happened. And I'd still bet GGG's people took control over it once Brook become a party of interest for the fight.

Its a pretty uncommon thing the B side has much control at all I'd say in a big fight with an A side. There are B sides with some pull doe don't get me wrong there either, but still B sides are usually just shaking or nodding their heads.

[Eff Pandas]

Whyte being offered to fight Wilder is a clear example of a B-side fighter offering an A side fighter a deal. Whyte doesn't make what Wilder does.

Kell Brook offers to Golovkin and Khan another example of a B-side fighter who makes less offering the A-side a deal to fight them.

True. Hearn is one to break the unofficial laws of promotion isn't he lol.

I guess the main issue here doe is usually you NEED a promoter in the first place to offer up a B side offer. And I like Lou. I don't think he's a sham promoter. But I also don't think he's reallllllly Wilder's promoter & he'd be massively overstating what he would be or wouldn't be able to do by throwing out an offer himself. This is a Wilder, Haymon & for some f#cking reason Shelly Finkel situation. And managers certainly don't usually offer deals.

[LacedUp]

Joshua fans, quick question. Why should Wilder take a flat fee when you said, and even voted in polls that Manny AND GG shouldn’t take “flat fees”? I’ll be back later.

Why should Wilder get 10times his best payday and Joshua has to settle for his usual?