If we get a unified HW champion, what comes next?

[Stephankotyk]

Undisputed from heavy vs undisputed from cruiser. Seems legit to me

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Exorbitant is an opinion and I don't argue opinions. If you feel it's exorbitant, I respect your view. But the 10% each guy paid out to the alphabelts was a worthwhile investment. Idongo made the biggest money of his life specifically because all of the belts were at stake. 10% well spent.




Of course. Which is why the belts do't stay unified. Not because it's hard to keep them unified, but because it's harder to remain champion if you keep them unified.

Guys like Klitschko and GGG put sport before business and wanted to accumulate the belts, even if it would have been safer to stick with one or two. More power to them.

Completely disagree about the fee’s, the belts honestly don’t add that much value to the acclaimed, top level fighters, certainly not 10% anyway. We’ll just agree to disagree on that one.

I think the fact that boxing is a business does make it very hard to keep belts unified, for arguments sake, say the WBA ordered the Povetkin mandatory for later this year and there are no possible extensions or anything, in this period Tyson Fury has come back and looks as good as he did previously and there is huge demand for AJ-Fury. You couldn’t blame AJ for vacating the WBA belt in order to take a harder, bigger and more valuable fight in Fury, in the same way you couldn’t blame Bradley for vacating the WBO belt to take a bigger, tougher and more valuable fight in Pacquiao.

In an ideal world, we’d want the titles to remain unified but in many situations it is not pragmatic, hence the reason it’s has happened incredibly rarely during this 4 belt era.

[N/A]

Completely disagree about the fee’s, the belts honestly don’t add that much value to the acclaimed, top level fighters, certainly not 10% anyway. We’ll just agree to disagree on that one.

Idongo wasn't an acclaimed top level fighter. He definitely got his 10% worth. He would have never sniffed a million in a million years if it wasn't for the belts.

But once you become undisputed, it's rarely worth it to keep paying. That's why it's so common for someone to ditch a belt or two to cut down on fees and mandatories. But mainly the mandatories because the extra 2% to keep an extra belt would be worth it to maintain more control over the division if it didn't come with an additional mandatory.

I think the fact that boxing is a business does make it very hard to keep belts unified, for arguments sake, say the WBA ordered the Povetkin mandatory for later this year and there are no possible extensions or anything, in this period Tyson Fury has come back and looks as good as he did previously and there is huge demand for AJ-Fury. You couldn’t blame AJ for vacating the WBA belt in order to take a harder, bigger and more valuable fight in Fury, in the same way you couldn’t blame Bradley for vacating the WBO belt to take a bigger, tougher and more valuable fight in Pacquiao.

I'll never blame a fighter for taking the biggest money fight, but this exposes one of boxing's biggest flaws. It's the wild west. Imagine if in any other sport the star could avoid facing who had earned the position in favor of facing whoever is more commercially appealing? The Cavaliers get upset by the 76ers and Golden State decides they're going to duck who had earned the position and just play LeBron anyway. This type of stuff happens in boxing all the time. It's toxic.

[sicko]

Yeah after you unify you can drop! If it was me I would Drop all besides the WBC and WBA which are historically the most Prestigious Belts in Boxing I think both been around the Longest if I'm not mistaking so they been around the waste of the GREATS especially the WBC

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Idongo wasn't an acclaimed top level fighter. He definitely got his 10% worth. He would have never sniffed a million in a million years if it wasn't for the belts.

But once you become undisputed, it's rarely worth it to keep paying. That's why it's so common for someone to ditch a belt or two to cut down on fees and mandatories. But mainly the mandatories because the extra 2% to keep an extra belt would be worth it to maintain more control over the division if it didn't come with an additional mandatory.




I'll never blame a fighter for taking the biggest money fight, but this exposes one of boxing's biggest flaws. It's the wild west. Imagine if in any other sport the star could avoid facing who had earned the position in favor of facing whoever is more commercially appealing? The Cavaliers get upset by the 76ers and Golden State decides they're going to duck who had earned the position and just play LeBron anyway. This type of stuff happens in boxing all the time. It's toxic.

I agree on Indongo, and what you said about fighters dropping belts was my original point once you’ve won the titles they no longer add that much value certainly not the 10% you have to pay. I think you only really need one belt to have control over the division providing you have beaten the other top level and relevant fighters.

There are so many flaws in boxing, the sanctioning bodies are just as much a part of it though with their bogus rankings and meaningless intercontinental titles. It’d be like the 76ers upsetting the Cavs and then Golden State being mandated to face the Brooklyn Nets cause they beat some Euroleague team for some international title.😂😂 It is toxic, I agree.

[Ray*]

Mandatories? I actually want to see all the HW fighting each other, Ortiz v Parker, Wilder v Parker, Whyte v Ortiz/Parker, Miller, Pedvetkin, Joshua etc in the mix

[KillaCamNZ]

In this day and age, being "Undisputed" isn't something that can be sustained long term. There's just too many conflicts, too many mandatories, and too many execs who want their slice of the pie.

Assuming AJ becomes Undisputed, then had to fragment the belts, he'd have to choose between staying with the IBF if he wanted to stay consistent challenged by mandatories, as they seem to have the most legit guys. OR, switching to the WBC (or WBA), who are the most likely to offer him flexibility.

The IBF has shown that even when their policies aren't popular, they stick to them. Firmly.

The WBC has shown that they will bend over for anyone who gives them some extra greenbacks.

The WBA couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery.

And WBO...wild card.