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Originally posted by Elroy The Great View Postsaying he failed a test is the best/only thing you can do.
if nsac thought nelo did something ON PURPOSE, much longer vacation.
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Originally posted by Gigantes View Postwhere's the link, where's the link, show me the link
''Promoter: Hair test shows Canelo Alvarez wasn't intentionally taking banned substance''
dummy
now go make another dumbassed poll
''which test is more relevant, the shields eye test or some dumb scientific test ?''
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Originally posted by CleneloAlvaroid View PostDoesnt matter if they think it was on purpose or not. He failed according to the rules. Hes guilty of having banned substances. You can try to paint this as pretty as you want, but it doesnt change the fact that he was caught. You sending little waves doesnt change that. Doesnt change that he even got sent on vacation and doesnt change that he cancelled the fight and caused this mess. Saying he failed a test is the only thing I have to do.
hes had mexican steak before and never failed a test. the odds got him. he didnt knowingly do anything wrong, hence the 6 mon vacation.
iow, nsac said meh to the failed tests
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Originally posted by Elroy The Great View Post
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...tic-commission
''Promoter: Hair test shows Canelo Alvarez wasn't intentionally taking banned substance''
dummy
now go make another dumbassed poll
''which test is more relevant, the shields eye test or some dumb scientific test ?''
The hair test
There has been a push in some quarters to use the “hair test” in order to convict or clear Canelo. To hear it told, this hair test is the answer to every question. In reality, hair testing for clenbuterol isn’t used for a reason; it’s incredibly unreliable.
The amount of clenbuterol that shows up in hair varies massively depending on factors like hair color. One study gave a group of people the same amount of clenbuterol. One participant, a 27-year-old female, showed 23 ng/g of clenbuterol in her hair afterwards. Another participant, also a 27-year-old female, showed 161 ng/g of clenbuterol in her hair. They both took the exact same amount, but one had seven times as much in her sample. The suggested reason for this discrepancy? The women had different hair color. This hair color discrepancy was supported by the other data in the study.
That might sound ridiculous, but other studies have found the same thing.
Another study, with more participants, found that even among subjects with similar hair color, the variation is still large. Despite every subject having hair listed as “brown” or “dark brown”, this study also found significant variation:
The lowest detected amount of clenbuterol in the first segment of hair was 0.43 pg/ng, the largest amount was 4.76 pg/ng. Both of these subjects had hair classed as “brown,” and both took the same amount of clenbuterol in the same way. That’s a difference of an entire order of magnitude. A similar issue was found in the second segments, which ranged from a detected amount of 0.00 pg/ng to 0.86 pg/ng.
Tests that have results varying by so much even under a controlled conditions are not reliable tests. The idea that they would somehow give us the information we need to determine if Canelo accidentally or deliberately ingested clenbuterol is ridiculous.
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Originally posted by Cheek busting View PostThe hair test
There has been a push in some quarters to use the “hair test” in order to convict or clear Canelo. To hear it told, this hair test is the answer to every question. In reality, hair testing for clenbuterol isn’t used for a reason; it’s incredibly unreliable.
The amount of clenbuterol that shows up in hair varies massively depending on factors like hair color. One study gave a group of people the same amount of clenbuterol. One participant, a 27-year-old female, showed 23 ng/g of clenbuterol in her hair afterwards. Another participant, also a 27-year-old female, showed 161 ng/g of clenbuterol in her hair. They both took the exact same amount, but one had seven times as much in her sample. The suggested reason for this discrepancy? The women had different hair color. This hair color discrepancy was supported by the other data in the study.
That might sound ridiculous, but other studies have found the same thing.
Another study, with more participants, found that even among subjects with similar hair color, the variation is still large. Despite every subject having hair listed as “brown” or “dark brown”, this study also found significant variation:
The lowest detected amount of clenbuterol in the first segment of hair was 0.43 pg/ng, the largest amount was 4.76 pg/ng. Both of these subjects had hair classed as “brown,” and both took the same amount of clenbuterol in the same way. That’s a difference of an entire order of magnitude. A similar issue was found in the second segments, which ranged from a detected amount of 0.00 pg/ng to 0.86 pg/ng.
Tests that have results varying by so much even under a controlled conditions are not reliable tests. The idea that they would somehow give us the information we need to determine if Canelo accidentally or deliberately ingested clenbuterol is ridiculous.
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