Comments Thread For: Wilder Manager Shakes Head at Joshua's $50 Million Request

[Ray*]

Team Wilder say it's only a 12% offer and laugh it off.
Joshua basically says it's not a 12% offer because it's not a 100m fight. He laughs and says if it's a 100m fight let's do 50/50 now, as he'd snatch the 50m if they want to offer it to him and Wilder.
Wilder's team = 'see he said it's a 100m fight, so he only offered us 12%'.

What a weak attempt from Finkle. The people actually going along with it mustn't of read the full story, or indeed the Joshua story from yesterday.

Finkel is aiming his comments at biased Wilder fans who will automatically interpret anything he says as - "AJ is scared. He don't want that work"

It isn't supposed to make sense to anybody who might actually use their brain and think about it.

I was actually laughing at those Finkel comments, But it’s clear now that those comments are definitely aimed at those fans. Because Finkel is quite educated and experienced in the boxing business.

[Ray*]

Shelly sounded stoooooooooooooopid here

He actually sounded like one of those Wilder accountants on here. I don’t want to believe that is Finkel, unless he didn’t go to maths school. He contradicted himself in those two lines.

[Redgloveman]

With the ****** offer and demands, Con Hearn and the Robots way of saying, they are not interested in the fight, they are playing games with the public to make it seem like they want but all the smart people know what is really going on

You're one of the smart people, are you?

[Deus]

I'm not sure you're understanding AJ's point. He's simply calling their bluff and forcing them to admit it's not actually a $100 mill fight, throwing that 12.5% claim out the window. Now the further away it is from $100 mill in the down direction, the higher 12.5 mill is as a percentage and the less ridiculous it is. He'll take 50% of $100 mill but not 50% of a much lower purse like 30 mill. And according to the interview, he believes the actual pot between the fighters only, not promoters, not the arena, not ppv percentages but just those two, could be 4x lower than 100 mill. On the other hand, it's looking like Wilder's team doesn't want a realistic percentage like 33% percent of whatever the pot ends up being, hence the flat fee offer. Like a previous poster mentioned, how big would AJ vs Ortiz have been compared to Wilder Ortiz? As AJ said, he's not a charity. To give Wilder significantly more of the purse is just giving away his own earnings and any metric of earning potential between the two will show that. Wilder claims he wants the fight but actually he just wants the money. Now Wilder did say whatever he takes now can be reversed in the rematch which opens negotiations. But like AJ said, instead simply responding with a counter offer like businessmen, they went to social media like amateurs. He says they're creating a counter offer. That's ridiculous, they should have had a counter offer within like 30 mins if they were serious. That's why AJ calls them clowns. They don't act professional or serious.

I know? I’m confused... you’ve pretty much just repeated my second line back to me in a lot more words?

[Raggamuffin]

Joshua is the biggest ***** in boxing. He wanted the fight at home, check. He says he’s the A side, check, and then comes up with two more road blocks. Just say that you’re scared or that you don’t like when Wilder attack’s you on social media. Straight *****..

[yoshik]

Wilder-Definitely the B- side.

[yoshik]

With the ****** offer and demands, Con Hearn and the Robots way of saying, they are not interested in the fight, they are playing games with the public to make it seem like they want but all the smart people know what is really going on

Just goes to show you my earlier assertion that Wilder and his fans are dumbasses. AJ and his peeps are business people. Wilder will be the next Shannon Briggs and blame whitey and AJ. LOL!

[Raggamuffin]

Haymon will make the deal or expose this *****. The ***** isnt the hvw champion lmfao. He’s acting like he’s the hvw champion of the world which boggles my mind!

[yoshik]

It's funny how the educated people on this thread get what AJ has done, yet Wilder, his team and his ignorant fans see it as AJ ducking. As I said yesterday, Wilder is the biggest dumbass in boxing next to Broner and his fans aren't far behind.

[tokon]

I'm not sure you're understanding AJ's point. He's simply calling their bluff and forcing them to admit it's not actually a $100 mill fight, throwing that 12.5% claim out the window. Now the further away it is from $100 mill in the down direction, the higher 12.5 mill is as a percentage and the less ridiculous it is. He'll take 50% of $100 mill but not 50% of a much lower purse like 30 mill. And according to the interview, he believes the actual pot between the fighters only, not promoters, not the arena, not ppv percentages but just those two, could be 4x lower than 100 mill. On the other hand, it's looking like Wilder's team doesn't want a realistic percentage like 33% percent of whatever the pot ends up being, hence the flat fee offer. Like a previous poster mentioned, how big would AJ vs Ortiz have been compared to Wilder Ortiz? As AJ said, he's not a charity. To give Wilder significantly more of the purse is just giving away his own earnings and any metric of earning potential between the two will show that. Wilder claims he wants the fight but actually he just wants the money. Now Wilder did say whatever he takes now can be reversed in the rematch which opens negotiations. But like AJ said, instead simply responding with a counter offer like businessmen, they went to social media like amateurs. He says they're creating a counter offer. That's ridiculous, they should have had a counter offer within like 30 mins if they were serious. That's why AJ calls them clowns. They don't act professional or serious.

Interesting perspective on the division of the "spoils", thanks. I think that these figures and offers are merely part of the "negotiation process" tbh.

What the fight is actually worth is merely a guess by both sides which they are manipulating to fit their position/demands. At this stage neither are being realistic imho.

However, Wilder is prepared to go to UK for the fight; Joshua has indicated the fight must be in the UK. Wilder should be credited with giving up "home advantage" to get this fight and must surely deserve at least somewhere near the same split as Parker got?