Why is Joshua expected to pay fighters double or triple what Floyd did?

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  • BennyBlanco
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    #21
    Originally posted by sunny31
    Why is Joshua who is making $20-30 million a fight, which is probably on average about half of a Floyd pay day post De La Hoya, expected to overpay fighters by these ridiculous amounts. He just had to pay Parker, £8 million, $11 million!!!

    To put that into perspective, against Floyd; Mosley, and Marquez, made less than that, both STARS, champions, multiple ppv appearances. In a fight where the pot for the fighters was probably around $70-80 million on a bad day.

    The hypocrisy and double standards are ridiculous.

    I hear people talking about %, without using any historical context. Now don't get me wrong, I don't think Wilder should be taking the flat offer, but I also dont think that number is a million miles away from where a fair % would end up. $15 million would be somewhere around that 30-35% mark, and quite frankly that is ridiculous overpaying if you consider the above, and the fact that both Parker and Wilder are not draws.

    Floyd was paying stars - actual STARS, certified HOFers, 10% of the purse in some cases, but they were happy because of the opportunity and the life changing money.

    When these guys were taking these purses, I didn't hear anyone complaining then, I didn't hear anything about low ball offers.

    This is the last I'm going to talk about this, but needed to put it out there.
    FAIL.

    Joshua isn't generating Mayweather numbers. That's why your analogy doesn't work.

    Mayweather's earning potential is what gave him leverage. He could generate huge numbers with a no-name opponent...so he had leverage to lowball anyone he thought.

    Not so for Joshua.

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    • sicko
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      #22
      You can't compare AJ to Mayweather and you can't compare the US Market to the UK Market!

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      • Robbie Barrett
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        #23
        Originally posted by BennyBlanco
        FAIL.

        Joshua isn't generating Mayweather numbers. That's why your analogy doesn't work.

        Mayweather's earning potential is what gave him leverage. He could generate huge numbers with a no-name opponent...so he had leverage to lowball anyone he thought.

        Not so for Joshua.
        That's his point.

        Mayweather was making more money but paying his opponents less and nobody had a problem with it. But people are demanding Joshua pay these guys that are making 1/10 he is 33%+. Ridiculous.

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        • pacmanis1
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          #24
          Mayweather’s 0 is worth a lot more than Joshua’s. If you beat Mayweather you were the new king, beating AJ just means he was a queen.

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          • sunny31
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            #25
            Originally posted by McNulty
            Hearn is the worst source, he can say whatever he wants because there is no Athletic Commission that reports earnings for the UK. How can you see what figures on Sky? Can you be more specific?

            He's not being offered £15M, he's being offered 12.5M USD which is £8.8M.

            You guys need to do your research and quit posting fake numbers. Thirty thousand threads on the same subject and 90% can't even get the dang numbers right.
            BARB give you the numbers, just have to go to the relevant date and channel, there is a poster on here who normally posts numbers.

            Who said Wilder was being offered 15m, you put that on your previous post about Joshua's Parker fight earnings, I was responding. You literally can't even follow your own argument, what chance do I have of having a reasonable debate with you?

            We will never know the exact numbers. We do know ballpark though, because Hearn has said as much in IFL videos. He has called AJ a £15 million fighter since Klitschko.

            He made 50% of a fight which did 1.25 million buys and a 90,000 sell out. Him and Klit split a £30 million pot.

            Less buys for Takam and a slightly smaller gate. Still around the same purse because of Takams purse being lower, around £2.5 million.

            Again not going tone exact, but I know I have a better concept of the numbers than most I've seen, and certainly you.

            Either way, stick on point or I'll get rid of you.

            Why are there double standards?

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            • sunny31
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              #26
              Originally posted by BennyBlanco
              FAIL.

              Joshua isn't generating Mayweather numbers. That's why your analogy doesn't work.

              Mayweather's earning potential is what gave him leverage. He could generate huge numbers with a no-name opponent...so he had leverage to lowball anyone he thought.

              Not so for Joshua.
              Joshua does huge numbers with anyone. He did 400k ppv buys before he was even world champion, and the Takam fight is further proof.

              He could make $20 million with anyone half decent.

              My question is why is he having to pay opponents more than Floyd when he isn't making that type of money himself?

              He has the leverage - you are wrong about that as I proved above. But fans still expect him to pay Wilder as much as Floyd paid Cotto, and Canelo. This is amusing to me.

              FAIL.

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              • uppercut510
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                #27
                brothers there is no way you can justify sending a champion a flat rate and not negotiating with him. Aj is the A side and deserves the higher split we get it but please stop

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                • sunny31
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by uppercut510
                  brothers there is no way you can justify sending a champion a flat rate and not negotiating with him. Aj is the A side and deserves the higher split we get it but please stop
                  Read my original post please.

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                  • boliodogs
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                    #29
                    Maybe Mayweather underpaid his opponents. I never paid attention. In the case of Wilder vs AJ I think Wilder deserves to make at least half as much as AJ makes and anything less than that not a good offer.Wilder is the B side but he is still half of a very big money making fight. He is the one fighting in hostile territory and he is a champion himself.

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                    • BLASTER1
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                      #30
                      These fighters are making huge amounts to fight 12 rounds and good on them.
                      But honestly when your making 10mill plus to fight surely you dont have to be too greedy to get the fight done.
                      I mean how much does either side really need to fight each other.
                      It should be an easy 35-65 split and reverse if Wilder wins and they have the rematch.

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