when are you gonna realise wilder is the B side?

[Madison Boxing]

theres a whole lot of crying about hearns offer, saying its not much more than parker etc.

Well why the **** would it be? Whats wilder done thats so amazing? He holds a belt and is undefeated, oh wait that sounds familiar.

I know some moron made a thread lying about how wilder is some big name over here but i can promise you hes not some household name.

Hes not much more known than parker, his fights havent really had much exposure and i think youre kidding yourself if you believe people were impressed by the ortiz fight, he looked more vulnerable than ever. And after the way ortiz looked against allen and scott when they aired it over here, hes not a fighter with a great reputation with the casuals.

Its not like floyd mayweather coming over to the uk, its similar to someone like spence in terms of recognition.

What im getting at is that joshua can make money with or without wilder. Its not some coming together of superstars, its joshua throwing wilder a deal thats slightly better than anyone else. The UK are gonna buy joshuas fights with or without wilder. Noones gonna buy any of wilders fights without joshua.

[chrisJS]

I'm extremely baffled by the folks that think Wilder is the A side here and that all of the money comes from America and Wilder's team yet they are complaining about what Hearn has to offer. Maybe Joshua takes the UK cut and Wilder takes the US cut?

Ortiz had looked like **** in recent fights and was very fat yet managed to dominate until he gassed out. He gassed out before he got hurt really. Look at how he slumps after a round where Wilder barely threw a punch and he didn't throw many himself.

Wilder is probably a smaller draw than Fury and Haye in England and he's not as good as Parker, Fury or PEDvetkin but I think it's a fair deal for him because Joshua and Hearn want all four titles and he does hold the last one and the fact it's for all four belts makes it a big fight though a Fury one will eventually be bigger if Fury gets his crap together.

[The Big Dunn]

theres a whole lot of crying about hearns offer, saying its not much more than parker etc.

Well why the **** would it be? Whats wilder done thats so amazing? He holds a belt and is undefeated, oh wait that sounds familiar.

I know some moron made a thread lying about how wilder is some big name over here but i can promise you hes not some household name.

Hes not much more known than parker, his fights havent really had much exposure and i think youre kidding yourself if you believe people were impressed by the ortiz fight, he looked more vulnerable than ever. And after the way ortiz looked against allen and scott when they aired it over here, hes not a fighter with a great reputation with the casuals.

Its not like floyd mayweather coming over to the uk, its similar to someone like spence in terms of recognition.

What im getting at is that joshua can make money with or without wilder. Its not some coming together of superstars, its joshua throwing wilder a deal thats slightly better than anyone else. The UK are gonna buy joshuas fights with or without wilder. Noones gonna buy any of wilders fights without joshua.

We all know Wilder is the B side. AJ is the draw, the A side, the man. either his team makes an offer they know Wilder can't refuse or they make one they know he will refuse.

Wilder IMO should take short money and take the fight so he doesn't screw himself. Then if he wins he's the man.

That said, just make sure you say the same thing about a flat fee offer that you did when discussing Floyd/manny and Canelo/GGG.

[Boksfan]

Wilder deserves what Parker got.

[HanzGruber]

Nobody says wilder is the A side. A flat fee for a fight this big ain’t gonna happen. I’m sure when Oscar said flat fee for ggg you complained for weeks

[chrisJS]

Nobody says wilder is the A side. A flat fee for a fight this big ain’t gonna happen. I’m sure when Oscar said flat fee for ggg you complained for weeks

I'm sure you said it was good for weeks too.

That works both ways.

[Robbie Barrett]

We all know Wilder is the B side. AJ is the draw, the A side, the man. either his team makes an offer they know Wilder can't refuse or they make one they know he will refuse.

Wilder IMO should take short money and take the fight so he doesn't screw himself. Then if he wins he's the man.

That said, just make sure you say the same thing about a flat fee offer that you did when discussing Floyd/manny and Canelo/GGG.

How about Wilder makes one Joshua can't refuse? All he has to do is ask for the same deal as Parker. Joshua/Hearn can;t refuse it or it would look very bad.

[Phenom]

Definitely needed another thread for this

1. He holds the more prestigious belt
2. He brings in the US market
3. It's the most anticipated fight in the sport right now

That's the difference between Wilder and Parker

[The Big Dunn]

I'm extremely baffled by the folks that think Wilder is the A side here and that all of the money comes from America and Wilder's team yet they are complaining about what Hearn has to offer. Maybe Joshua takes the UK cut and Wilder takes the US cut?

Ortiz had looked like **** in recent fights and was very fat yet managed to dominate until he gassed out. He gassed out before he got hurt really. Look at how he slumps after a round where Wilder barely threw a punch and he didn't throw many himself.

Wilder is probably a smaller draw than Fury and Haye in England and he's not as good as Parker, Fury or PEDvetkin but I think it's a fair deal for him because Joshua and Hearn want all four titles and he does hold the last one and the fact it's for all four belts makes it a big fight though a Fury one will eventually be bigger if Fury gets his crap together.

Fury is just out of rehab. Haye is a blown up cruiser coming off a loss. Povetkin is a PED user. AJ already defeated Whyte. Miller isn't as good as Wilder.

There is no honor or respect if AJ chooses to fight either of them next instead of Wilder. The British fans, AJ fans, and Wilder haters need to accept this.

[Kagami Taiga]

Nobody says wilder is the A side. A flat fee for a fight this big ain’t gonna happen. I’m sure when Oscar said flat fee for ggg you complained for weeks

Exactly. Pretty much the same. exact. situation.