Comments Thread For: Team Wilder Plan Counter To $12.5 Million Flat Fee For Joshua

[aboutfkntime]

Lets get a couple of facts out. Wilder is far and extremely more popular in the US than AJ is. Last time I checked, US PPV is worth about 4 times the amount of UK PPV. And AJ doesn't fight on a US PPV unless it includes Wilder. So 100k US PPVs is worth approximately 400k UK PPVs, how much would it be if there is over 500k purchases in the US. Well, I guess Hearn should offer Wilder 12.5 plus all US income being that Wilder is the draw in the US. And AJ can keep all the money from the UK. Would that be fair? Warning, Wilder could possibly end up making more than AJ if that were the deal. Or let me get this clear, AJ should get the bulk of all this new income, even though it's Wilder that brings it in? How is this a fair deal exactly?

it is not a fair deal

it is either a ****ty starting point in negotiations, or a duck

forget the excuse-makers..... if that was a take-it-or-leave-it offer, then Hearn/Joshua will be labeled as duckers..... no question

even the brits will not fall for that..... especially following Joshua's recent announcement that he personally put that offer together, and that he is an astute businessman

I think it is far more likely to be a ****ty starting point..... like the 20% they offered Parker

1) People are a little quick to throw Joshua under a bus
2) Joshua was dumb calling that ****ty offer, take-it-or-leave-it

[aboutfkntime]

Yeah but remember, he says, as do many, that he'll blast AJ out of there, he's hardly being asked to walk over hot coals to prove himself, one fight where he's the B side (and still earning second biggest check in boxing this year) and the world is then his oyster.

Let's face it he's hardly proved himself a real champion yet, he hasn't had champions moment, he's had one tricky opponent in all his defences, it's time to back up all the talk and then name his price. He'll get a lot more respect and money if he stops posturing over who's pulling more cash in this fight and just goes in and does the business.

yea but that has no bearing on what he brings to the table

and if that offer is "take-it-or-leave-it" then Wilder is being asked to walk over hot coals

the..... sure, so long as we reverse the deal for the rematch..... is highly unlikely to swing with Joshua/Hearn

[aboutfkntime]

The problem is you all live in a delusional world

Nobody knows wilder, get that in your head first of all, apart from hardcore fans, he is a nobody

He can’t sell out arenas when he currently fights and he certainly won’t do any Ppv numbers vs anyone

Stop ducking and sign to fight should be the message form your accountants

and yet..... Parker was even less well-known, and he got 35%

that angle won't work buddy

nor will the..... your biggest payday, angle

nor will the..... but you think you can win, angle

[Gbenopix]

Wilder beat Stiverne when he was #2 in the world and Ortiz when he was #3 in the world.

Joshua doesn't have a single top 5 win on his resume, let alone top 3.

You've been brainwashed into believing something that doesn't hold up when you look at the facts.

So Klitchko was number 10 when Joshua beat him?

[aboutfkntime]

I think that ****ty offer is just a starting point, like the 20% they offered Parker

[Cheek busting]

Wilder, look boy, you need to KNOW YOUR PLACE!

You literally can't draw flies to shyte! You have chicken legs that can't hold up to a shot, you ugly, and you too black to even see your tattoos!

you command 2-3 million for a fight; Joshua commands 20+

KNOW YOUR ROLE!

[TrillScottHeron]

I hope this story is inaccurate and meant to stir up hype on this site (if so: mission accomplished). It’s weird that every piece of negotiation news between Matchbook fighters is widely publicized yet others is gradually revealed leading up to/after fights. Hearn has his finger on U.K. media since the Groves/Froch fight and he is very manipulative in the way that he uses it. If their truly sincere in making a fight have a purse bid.

[sportbuddha]

yea but that has no bearing on what he brings to the table

and if that offer is "take-it-or-leave-it" then Wilder is being asked to walk over hot coals

the..... sure, so long as we reverse the deal for the rematch..... is highly unlikely to swing with Joshua/Hearn

$12.5m is a lot of money, the whole worlds gone mad. It’s probably about what Parker made for his 35% anyway, probably more for Wilder, no one seems to be mentioning that, just keeping flipping between 35% and $12.5m.

[NorvernRob]

Lets get a couple of facts out. Wilder is far and extremely more popular in the US than AJ is. Last time I checked, US PPV is worth about 4 times the amount of UK PPV. And AJ doesn't fight on a US PPV unless it includes Wilder. So 100k US PPVs is worth approximately 400k UK PPVs, how much would it be if there is over 500k purchases in the US. Well, I guess Hearn should offer Wilder 12.5 plus all US income being that Wilder is the draw in the US. And AJ can keep all the money from the UK. Would that be fair? Warning, Wilder could possibly end up making more than AJ if that were the deal. Or let me get this clear, AJ should get the bulk of all this new income, even though it's Wilder that brings it in? How is this a fair deal exactly?

How many PPV’s has Wilder sold so far in his career?

To put this into context, Prince Naseem Hamed, a featherweight, made 6 million fighting Barrera 17 years ago. I hope Wilder accepts, but let's not pretend it's a fair offer. Not mentioning if the fight is next, where the venue will be and a crappy offer like this says what about their offer? They hope he won't accept such a **** offer, but he might and shame Hearn.

As above, how many PPV’s has Wilder sold? Hamed was THE man that brought big paydays to the lighter weights, he was the attraction and a proven PPV seller.

Wilder will probably end up getting more than 12.5m, but that is already 5 times more than his biggest payday. Joshua earns 15m+ against anybody.

If Wilder wants to make any money then he has to fight Joshua.

[Oshio]

Lol... Hearn and the AJ team are good bus people