US Gates vs UK Gates

[_Rexy_]

Those Vegas figures were from 14 to 23 years ago. Tyson vs McNeely did 14M gate 23 fùcking years ago. McNeely was a bum!!! AJ vs Wilder can do more, for sure I believe that.

Joshua vs Wilder will do more in Vegas. Joshua fans will pay the money. Look at Calzaghe vs Hopkins, 10 years later the best AJ can do is 1M more than Old Man Hopkins vs Calzaghe in Vegas.

We knew McNeely was a bum when the fight was announced. Nobody cared. We all knew Tyson was knocking him out in the first round, and we watched it for that reason lol.

[McNulty]

It's not about gates, it's all about PPV's.

Well a lot of Joshua fans are talking about the gate, so here we are. The real problem is UK fight fixing so the fight HAS to happen in Vegas.

We can talk abut PPV too. Sky Sports is a subscription based service right? When they do PPV's, they get like £25 right? If I'm wrong here, give me the goods. I cut like a knife and knowledge is power.

We knew McNeely was a bum when the fight was announced. Nobody cared. We all knew Tyson was knocking him out in the first round, and we watched it for that reason lol.

Absolutely, but that was a long time ago --- 23 years to be exact. Times change, marketing gets better and more money is up for grabs.

[_Rexy_]

Absolutely, but that was a long time ago --- 23 years to be exact. Times change, marketing gets better and more money is up for grabs.

Do me a favor...never...NEVER tell me how long ago a fight was.

[McNulty]

It's not a US ppv fight, that is the problem and all parties involved know it.

Sit the F...ck down!

I'm talking about gate so shut it. All the PPV can easily be ironed out and everybody get's their share and more.

[McNulty]

Do me a favor...never...NEVER tell me how long ago a fight was.

[club fighter]

Well a lot of Joshua fans are talking about the gate, so here we are. The real problem is UK fight fixing so the fight HAS to happen in Vegas.

We can talk abut PPV too. Sky Sports is a subscription based service right? When they do PPV's, they get like £25 right? If I'm wrong here, give me the goods. I cut like a knife and knowledge is power.



Absolutely, but that was a long time ago --- 23 years to be exact. Times change, marketing gets better and more money is up for grabs.

I doubt that it will happen in Vegas, and I also think it's only right for Wilder to have to go to AJ's backyard to take his belts.

Still, the bottom line is PPV's will always trump attendance when it comes to a fight this big. There's no getting around it.

[Jubei]

Why do you post gates of actual superstars like Dela Hoya and Tyson? Wilder is no superstar, why dont you post Wilders gates and numbers??

Wilder vs Ortiz had ticket prices between $50 and $1100, average about $130, even if we assume that no tickets were given away and they actually sold all 14k then the gate for Wilder Ortiz was ~$1.8 Million

Wilder vs Ortiz had a gate of ~$1.8 Million
Joshua vs Klitschko had a gate of ~$12 Million

Wilder has not sold a single PPV yet and you post numbers from Tyson and Oscar de la Hoya to compare to Wilder who is a total nobody compared to these stars?

[Holler]

Well a lot of Joshua fans are talking about the gate, so here we are. The real problem is UK fight fixing so the fight HAS to happen in Vegas.

Vegas is the global capital of fight fixing. Do we need to run through all the dodgy decisions there over the years?

Absolutely, but that was a long time ago --- 23 years to be exact. Times change, marketing gets better and more money is up for grabs.

The problem is that boxing has been a sport in decline in the US for the last 20 or more years. You're referencing figures from a time when there were simply more people interested in the outcome and fewer alternative for their dollars.

Neither of these fighters have a big enough profile to truly hit those heights. There's not a hispanic fighter to attract the passionate Latino audience either.

The fight is guaranteed to make a fortune in the UK. All the Vegas figures bandied around are highly speculative and laced with risk.

[sunny31]

I'm talking about gate so shut it. All the PPV can easily be ironed out and everybody get's their share and more.

They won't do the gate or the ppv in the US, not yet anyway, and even if they get a gate it will be driven by UK fans travelling. These are all risks, and assumptions. Will it sell on US ppv? Will the UK fans travel, and if so, how many? Will the UK fans buy the ppv at 5.00am?

They don't have uncertainty in the UK. You know the fight does 1.25-1.5 million buys. You know the fight sells out, they can probably bump the ticket prices significantly, you know both Showtime, and HBO will pay huge money for the rights, as well as RTL and quite a few big markets in Europe. Due to the high profile nature of having it in the UK sponsorship will be that much greater.

Seriously...sit down!

[McNulty]

They won't do the gate or the ppv in the US, not yet anyway, and even if they get a gate it will be driven by UK fans travelling. These are all risks, and assumptions. Will it sell on US ppv? Will the UK fans travel, and if so, how many? Will the UK fans buy the ppv at 5.00am?

They don't have uncertainty in the UK. You know the fight does 1.25-1.5 million buys. You know the fight sells out, they can probably bump the ticket prices significantly, you know both Showtime, and HBO will pay huge money for the rights, as well as RTL and quite a few big markets in Europe. Due to the high profile nature of having it in the UK sponsorship will be that much greater.

Seriously...sit down!

Sit down? Are you fùcking high?

Like, how long have you been watching Boxing? Because your first post sounds like you just started watching like 2 years ago. Step up your game young grasshopper.

I doubt that it will happen in Vegas, and I also think it's only right for Wilder to have to go to AJ's backyard to take his belts.

Still, the bottom line is PPV's will always trump attendance when it comes to a fight this big. There's no getting around it.

Why can't the do the same amount of PPV's with the fight in Vegas? Sky will still have rights, they can sell it to the Germans like they always do and get a piece of the US market too.

Vegas is the global capital of fight fixing. Do we need to run through all the dodgy decisions there over the years?

The problem is that boxing has been a sport in decline in the US for the last 20 or more years. You're referencing figures from a time when there were simply more people interested in the outcome and fewer alternative for their dollars.

Neither of these fighters have a big enough profile to truly hit those heights. There's not a hispanic fighter to attract the passionate Latino audience either.

The fight is guaranteed to make a fortune in the UK. All the Vegas figures bandied around are highly speculative and laced with risk.

Here we go with another pleb. Vegas is the cleanest place to fight on the planet, what are you smoking cuz I never want to smoke that dust tainted Reggie. Germany, UK, Colombia (watch the Torres fight where they snatch a leg from ringside), and Asia off the top of my head are the shadiest for fight fixing. Vegas is a global base with little home court advantage. You see Calzaghe lose to Hopkins in Vegas on the cards? There goes your shíthead theory.

Boxing is on the decline? Angel Dust is rotting your brain kid. The last 20 years has been the best for Boxing in Earth's History!!!

1. FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. EMMANUEL PACQUIAO
05/02/15
$72,198,500.00

2. FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. CONOR McGREGOR
08/26/17
$55,414,865.79

3. SAUL "CANELO" ALVAREZ vs .
GENNADY "GGG" GOLOVKIN
09/16/17
$27,059,850.00

4. FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. SAUL CANELO ALVAREZ
09/14/13
$20,003,150.00

5. FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. OSCAR DE LA HOYA
05/05/07
$18,419,200.00

6. LENNOX LEWIS vs. EVANDER HOLYFIELD II
11/13/99
$16,860,300.00

7. FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. MARCOS MAIDANA
05/03/14
$15,024,400.00

Those are just gates never mind PPV buys and other revenue. Those 7 fights are the biggest fights in history. Get with the program and quit quoting headlines.