If Hurd beats Charlo, a GGG fight is a MUST.

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  • Illmatic94
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    #11
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    sacrifice? Middleweight as a weight class with a limit of 160 has been a recognized weight class since 1910

    157 has been recognized since never. I don't see how it's asking a lot to weigh in at what middleweights have been weighing in at for 108 years.
    what I mean by sacrifice is his lack of stepping out of his comfort zone to make big fights happen.

    Hopkins vs Oscar was 157 catchweight. and Hopkins just to show off came in at 155. that was for the MW straps too.

    Hopkins vs Pavlik was 170 lb catchweight. Bernard could've easily told him to drag his ass up to 175 but made a sacrifice for him.

    GGG could've fought Canelo years ago at 155. he himself said he can drop as low as 154 with no problems so I didn't understand what the hold up was. him and Canelo should've been a trilogy by now but Golovkin chose to sit his ass frozen at 160 waiting for Canelo to move up.

    he said he could move up for guys like Degale, Froch and Chavez. but for Ward he wants a weight he knows Ward cannot make to weasel out.

    also never sacrificed to meet Cotto either.

    that's my point. everybody has to always go to him and he doesn't have to move an inch.

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    • HarvardBlue
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      #12
      So we would get a 37 year old Golovkin against a 28 year old Hurd. That's a tough fight for Golovkin win or lose. We already know Hurd can take a punch and is relentless. I don't think even Golovkin would deter him.

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      • uppercut510
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        #13
        yeah but a few of laras punches got his attention sat, its only so many punches u can take before its your time... I think it would be a war but GGG wins in fight of the year!

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        • BillyBoxing
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          #14
          Originally posted by Illmatic94
          They should meet at 157. I'm tired of guys making all the sacrifices to make Golovkin comfortable. GGG has made zero sacrifices in his career. None. If Hurd becomes undisputed he can also stay and reign for a couple defenses. and if Golovkin beats BJS for the final belt I'm more interested in him moving up and facing Zurdo or Benavidez.
          Well, dunno if it would be a big sacrifice for Hurd to stop making 154 and be comfortable at 160.

          I mean, dude looks huge, I dunno how much he rehydrates but I'm not thinking about him being small, weak or light at 160.

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          • BillyBoxing
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            #15
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
            Fight won't happen. GGG is bogged down with mandatory fights. If he does fight Saunders this year he's only delaying the mandatory obligations until next year. And if the Canelo fight is a possibility next year he's going with that last big payday. GGG is getting to old to be fighting these hungry young lions for little money.
            man that ass...

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            • LetOutTheCage
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              #16
              It would be entertaining for as long as it last but I dont see him going the distance with GGG. Not sure if he even gets past Charlo, though I hope he does.

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              • bluebeam
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                #17
                Originally posted by Illmatic94
                what I mean by sacrifice is his lack of stepping out of his comfort zone to make big fights happen.

                Hopkins vs Oscar was 157 catchweight. and Hopkins just to show off came in at 155. that was for the MW straps too.

                Hopkins vs Pavlik was 170 lb catchweight. Bernard could've easily told him to drag his ass up to 175 but made a sacrifice for him.

                GGG could've fought Canelo years ago at 155. he himself said he can drop as low as 154 with no problems so I didn't understand what the hold up was. him and Canelo should've been a trilogy by now but Golovkin chose to sit his ass frozen at 160 waiting for Canelo to move up.

                he said he could move up for guys like Degale, Froch and Chavez. but for Ward he wants a weight he knows Ward cannot make to weasel out.

                also never sacrificed to meet Cotto either.

                that's my point. everybody has to always go to him and he doesn't have to move an inch.

                no catch weight necessary

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                • boliodogs
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Illmatic94
                  They should meet at 157. I'm tired of guys making all the sacrifices to make Golovkin comfortable. GGG has made zero sacrifices in his career. None. If Hurd becomes undisputed he can also stay and reign for a couple defenses. and if Golovkin beats BJS for the final belt I'm more interested in him moving up and facing Zurdo or Benavidez.
                  Yes they should fight at 157 if you ran boxing but fortunately you don't. That's one of the ******est ideas I have heard in a while. what title would they be fighting for? The super junior middleweight title? Hurd has too much class to ask for a catchweight. If he can't beat GGG at the standard 160 pound middleweight limit then he isn't the middleweight champ. Leave the catchweights to the non title fights. A world title fight fought at a catchweight is BS GGG hater.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Illmatic94
                    what I mean by sacrifice is his lack of stepping out of his comfort zone to make big fights happen.

                    Hopkins vs Oscar was 157 catchweight. and Hopkins just to show off came in at 155. that was for the MW straps too.

                    Hopkins vs Pavlik was 170 lb catchweight. Bernard could've easily told him to drag his ass up to 175 but made a sacrifice for him.

                    GGG could've fought Canelo years ago at 155. he himself said he can drop as low as 154 with no problems so I didn't understand what the hold up was. him and Canelo should've been a trilogy by now but Golovkin chose to sit his ass frozen at 160 waiting for Canelo to move up.

                    he said he could move up for guys like Degale, Froch and Chavez. but for Ward he wants a weight he knows Ward cannot make to weasel out.

                    also never sacrificed to meet Cotto either.

                    that's my point. everybody has to always go to him and he doesn't have to move an inch.
                    He dosen't need to move down for hurd or anyone.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Illmatic94
                      what I mean by sacrifice is his lack of stepping out of his comfort zone to make big fights happen.

                      Hopkins vs Oscar was 157 catchweight. and Hopkins just to show off came in at 155. that was for the MW straps too.

                      Hopkins vs Pavlik was 170 lb catchweight. Bernard could've easily told him to drag his ass up to 175 but made a sacrifice for him.

                      GGG could've fought Canelo years ago at 155. he himself said he can drop as low as 154 with no problems so I didn't understand what the hold up was. him and Canelo should've been a trilogy by now but Golovkin chose to sit his ass frozen at 160 waiting for Canelo to move up.

                      he said he could move up for guys like Degale, Froch and Chavez. but for Ward he wants a weight he knows Ward cannot make to weasel out.

                      also never sacrificed to meet Cotto either.

                      that's my point. everybody has to always go to him and he doesn't have to move an inch.
                      You are hung up on boxers having to fight at a weight that they aren't comfortable at to prove they are good. That's your problem. You want everyone to think the same weird way you think. We have weight classes in boxing and smart boxers pick the weight class that is correct for them. If they are good enough to win a world title at their best weight and successfully defend that title against all worthy challengers then intelligent reasonable boxing fans consider them excellent boxers. They don't have to fight any lower or higher in weight to be good or great. History is full of great champions who only fought in one weight class their entire career. Pryor, Hagler, Monzon,Zale and other great famous champions fought at one weight their entire career. GGG is a natural middleweight who became the middleweight champion in 2010 and has made 19 successful title defenses. He turned down no worthy challenger but some worthy challengers didn't want to fight him. He made all of his title defenses at the proper middleweight limit of 160 pounds with no catchweights just as he has every right to do. The fact is you just hate GGG and try to turn this into a crime. You don't hold any other boxer to the same standard. Jermell,Lara,Thurman,Degale,Zurdo, and many other current champions have fought only at one weight their entire career but you don't criticize them. You only trash GGG. Why is that?

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