The Weight Drained / Weight Bully Conundrum

[KingHippo]

I'm kinda confused with the whole thing. One day, people will claim that draining an opponent puts them at a disadvantage, and the next day, someone is a weight bully for supposedly draining themselves down 2 division below their natural weight class. What's so fascinating is that it's usually the same group of people who come up with this argument.

So, is weight draining an advantage or a disadvantage?

[FrankieClutch]

People pick and choose when things matter depending on their agenda

[leathernvouges]

Good point to me it seems if your asking a person with 3% body fat who already drains himself to make a certain weight to lose 3 more pounds that’s unhealthy unfair and also dangerous but if u take a person like Chavez jr who was said to be around 190lbs against Martinez who can somehow drain themselves comfortably and make the weight then blow back up is kinda having a huge advantage so it depends on the fighter and body composition

[DuckAdonis]

Hurd wasnt even weight drained at the weigh in. He just has a huge body and not that much mass (weight) on him.

He beat Lara fair and Square

[Raggamuffin]

I'm kinda confused with the whole thing. One day, people will claim that draining an opponent puts them at a disadvantage, and the next day, someone is a weight bully for supposedly draining themselves down 2 division below their natural weight class. What's so fascinating is that it's usually the same group of people who come up with this argument.

So, is weight draining an advantage or a disadvantage?

Imo it’s always a disadvantage because when you meet someone who is true at that weight your shrinking down doesn’t matter. Gallimore Williams was a perfect example of that. In the end the body punching of Williams weakened Gallimore badly. He had nothing in the tank late in the fight. Williams face was marked up from the bigger man, but he clearly won.

[b00g13man]

People pick and choose when things matter depending on their agenda

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[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

you guys act like everything in life is black and white.

Some fighters will be weight drained

and some fighters will be at an advantage.

hell some fighters who used to have that advantage cutting so much weight hit that wall over night and bam they are weight drained now.

things change, everything is different for everyone.

[Dip_Slide]

It depends on whether or not the fighter made weight recently or not, you can't ask someone who hasn't made a certain weight for 7-8 years to move back down 7 pounds to make the weight and not to be weight drained especially if they built themselves up to the higher weight and didn't have so much fat or water weight at the higher weight.

Other than that if the fighter looks ok at the weigh in then being drained is not a valid excuse. Weight bullying is a different story though

[Derranged]

you guys act like everything in life is black and white.

Some fighters will be weight drained

and some fighters will be at an advantage.

hell some fighters who used to have that advantage cutting so much weight hit that wall over night and bam they are weight drained now.

things change, everything is different for everyone.

End of thread! Not bad, homes.

[boliodogs]

I don't like weighing in about 32 hours before the fight. They used to weigh boxers the day of the fight and had less problems with weight differences between boxers who were fighting each other. Those are the rules and if a boxer makes the contract weight he has cheated or bullied no one. If the boxers aren't actually weighed on the night of the fight some guys just make wild and way wrong guesses about how much some accused weigh bully weighed on fight night. Some said Hurd weighed 190 in the ring with Lara. Both boxers were weighed on fight night and Hurd weighed only 163 to Lara's 162. No boxer has any strange super power that lets them drain down to a low weight and then mysteriously gain 20, 30 or even 40 pounds in a 32 hour period. Humans can't do that. A weight gain of maybe 15 pounds might be doable and helpful but more weigh gain that that would do more harm than good. A weight gain of 30 pounds is impossible and no boxer ever gained that much from a reliable source. Chavez weighed 180 for Martinez, not 190. Did it help him in the fight? I doubt it? Martinez beat him easily for 11 rounds and Chavez hurt Martinez badly in the last round.