Comments Thread For: Pacquiao May Use Buboy as Trainer For Matthysse, Says Koncz

[meme_man]

Not going to get involved in a drawn out convo about this, but you do realize that's an outright lie, right?

All I'm going to say is 50/50, 14 day cut-off. Even PacRoaches and Freddie Roach himself agree that this was a fair deal.

I'll leave it at that.

It's sad honestly we all saw what happen on May 2nd..

[Johnny_Roa]

Not going to get involved in a drawn out convo about this, but you do realize that's an outright lie, right?

All I'm going to say is 50/50, 14 day cut-off. Even PacRoaches and Freddie Roach himself agree that this was a fair deal.

I'll leave it at that.

They all agreed because it was a huge amount of money involved for both parties.

Listen, i'm the biggest Floyd fan because i've always said that you aren't a fan of boxing if you don't appreciate Floyd, but i can recognize the scummy ways he treated opponents to have certain advantages.

[travestyny]

They all agreed because it was a huge amount of money involved for both parties.

Listen, i'm the biggest Floyd fan because i've always said that you aren't a fan of boxing if you don't appreciate Floyd, but i can recognize the scummy ways he treated opponents to have certain advantages.

What scummy ways are you talking about, just out of curiosity? Similar to what De La Hoya would do to have certain advantages? I remember he had a bunch of demands that Floyd had to abide by when their fight was made, but I don't think it was anything so outrageous.

[bluebeam]

I've seen all of his fights. Same when Roach got him as he is now. Maybe not the same as day one of being a pro, but same since Roach. Kid, if you think his right hook is better now than when he was fightingt at 130 you really don't know shít about throwing hooks.

He beat Morales because Morales was shot after those two wars with MAB. Every fighter in history that fights trilogies (unless it's Robinson.Lamotta) leaves pieces of themselves in the ring.

Look at Morales against Raheem after the 2nd MAB fight which was right before the 2nd Pacquiao fight. My man was ripe. If you think that's the same Morales from 2002 you DKSAB.

so you saying pacquiao jab isn't better today than it was pre roach?


that's his right hand

[strykr619]

One voice he can trust is Buboy? Damn, the they did Freddie dirt.

Buboy pretty much translated for Freddie for the first several years, its also well know that he was Freddie's understudy also, who do you think ran training when Freddie wasn't around ?

At this point what does Freddie really do for Manny now ? Buboy will be fine.

[Brother Mouzone]

I know the optics of Pac and politics have always given the appearance of Pacquiao coming unprepared, but this time I actually have a bad feeling.

Manny lost the eye of the tiger and the hunger when he blew up and went all religious.When he was just catholic, cheating on his wife , ******** and drinking he was a ****ing killer in the ring destroying and KOing everyone (except for Marquez).

[thesmokingman]

Buboy pretty much translated for Freddie for the first several years, its also well know that he was Freddie's understudy also, who do you think ran training when Freddie wasn't around ?

At this point what does Freddie really do for Manny now ? Buboy will be fine.

This. Buboy was Freddie's voice in that sense and the voice isn't changing. What's Pac going to face in Lucas that any of them hasn't seen? Buboy has probably collected enough Roach-isms where he will just regurgitate Roach at will.

[A.K]

I wonder what Freddie said to the media that pissed him off

[thesmokingman]

I wonder what Freddie said to the media that pissed him off

Freddie threw Pac under the bus after the Horn loss.

[TJ highway]

I wonder what Freddie said to the media that pissed him off

It's nothing Freddie said to the media that pissed him off.
Everybody knows Manny was not happy with Freddie after the Horn fight. Freddie did not do an good job in Pacquiao’s loss to Jeff Horn. He was passive, and not taking charge of the situation with Pacquiao getting roughed up by Horn for the entire fight.

Pacquiao was getting mugged, and there wasn’t anything being done about. Zero complaints from Freddie to the referee. Freddie should have stepped up early and gotten on the referee’s case to make him do his job.

Buboy Fernandez will obviously cost Pacquiao less as Freddie was the highest paid trainer in boxing. Buboy has been with Manny his whole career even before he came to the US.

Where Freddie will be missed his is the trash talking and getting in the other fighters head. Manny doesn't trash talk.