How many genuine big punchers has Windmill faced?

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  • Silky-Flow
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    #11
    Originally posted by Sparked_26
    Pretty much all of them at the top level.
    Rubbish, you telling me Molina punches as hard as AJ? No chance.

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      #12
      Stiverne hits hard

      Ortiz hits hard too

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      • Sparked_26
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        #13
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        Yea, that's the way I feel. It's the HW division, anybody can be laid out with one punch.
        Yeah, it makes me bristle when people say heavies can't punch.

        It's why the division is what it is. Some posters are used to watching 147 pounders.

        Why didn't AJ step in more? Because Parker a 238 pound was primed with a counter left hook the whole fight. Of course he could have KO'd AJ.

        David Price is a heavy with a relatively weak chin who has campaigned at a decent level but if Povetkin landed the two shots on AJ and Wilder that sent him to the moon. He would have knocked them both out, obviously.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Silky-Flow
          Rubbish, you telling me Molina punches as hard as AJ? No chance.
          What?

          I said pretty much all of them punch hard. Not a leap to think any man above 220 pound who can punch his weight punches hard. Common sense

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          • New England
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            it's HW man. believe me, almost all of these 230+ lb guys will get you going if they hit you flush. i'd say stiverne, arreola, and ortiz are the biggest hitters he fought. washington can hit, too, but he's not as proven. biggest hitter joshua fought was obviously wladimir.

            what wilder has not faced are many athletic / explosive fighters. same with joshua. he's really only got two on his resume, and one was in his 40's and all but retired. not sure where the idea that joshua has faced a murders row has come from. both are still largely unproven unitl they fight each other.

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            • Silky-Flow
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              #16
              Originally posted by Sparked_26
              What?

              I said pretty much all of them punch hard. Not a leap to think any man above 220 pound who can punch his weight punches hard. Common sense
              SMH in all the divisions there are different levels of punchers. Takam for example does not hit as hard as Breazeale, this is what you're not getting.

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                #17
                Originally posted by New England
                it's HW man. believe me, almost all of these 230+ lb guys will get you going if they hit you flush. i'd say stiverne, arreola, and ortiz are the biggest hitters he fought. washington can hit, too, but he's not as proven. biggest hitter joshua fought was obviously wladimir.

                what wilder has not faced are many athletic / explosive fighters. same with joshua. he's really only got two on his resume, and one was in his 40's and all but retired. not sure where the idea that joshua has faced a murders row has come from. both are still largely unproven unitl they fight each other.
                Never said AJ has faced a murderers row, just that he's clearly faced the bigger punches and his chin has come through that. Windmill has not faced the level of punchers AJ has and so his chin is not as tested as some may think it is.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Sparked_26
                  What?

                  I said pretty much all of them punch hard. Not a leap to think any man above 220 pound who can punch his weight punches hard. Common sense


                  right, these guys don't seem to get that wilder punches a hell of a lot harder than he needs to . all you gotta do is put somebody down for 10 seconds, get the ref to stop the fight. wilder has removed dudes entire from consciousness with one shot, and even early. yeah, they don't all hit that hard, but they don't need to! they hit hard enough to hurt and eventually stop each other. that's why HW has histoircally been the most exciting division for the casual. huge, eye catchig shots that stagger an opponent are easy for the layman to understand.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Silky-Flow
                    Oops, should of known I was dealing with one of the "windmill wankers", never mind.
                    yeah, I'm a "windmill wanker" because Ortiz hits harder than Parker.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Silky-Flow
                      Never said AJ has faced a murderers row, just that he's clearly faced the bigger punches and his chin has come through that. Windmill has not faced the level of punchers AJ has and so his chin is not as tested as some may think it is.


                      clearly? which ones? name the top 5 punchers each guy has faced. and how'd joshua do when wladimir hit him with big shots? or even dillian white, a modest puncher?


                      and do me a favor if you expect me to take you seriously when we talk about boxing, stop calling the guy windmill. FFS this is not some case where an undeserving fighter is being touted as something he is not! the guy is limited but he punches hard enough to make up for it! these are two limited, largely unproven fighters, in their prime, with huge power. it's a fight that both guys deserve, and the biggest fight in boxing because of that.

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