Ortiz would've beaten AJ

[chrisJS]

yup https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=773102

people gonna change their mind now since aj couldnt finish him,

Tons of posters here picked Rigo to beat Lomachenko and then discredited it.

Personally Loma-Rigo and joshua-Parker went exactly as predicted but Wilder-Ortiz was surprising as I predicted that would be the easiest fight.

[Godsfly]

Jennings, he was ranked higher than Takam, Fury, and Ruiz all guys that have pushed Parker to his limit. Jennings went a full 12 and gave Wlad one of his tougher fights, more so than Pulev, Wach, Pedvetkin, Haye, etc.

Ortiz completely outclassed Jennings. Parker also looked very lackluster vs Cojanu who made fun of him for not having any power.

Well yea, i mentioned this already in a thread. Parker many times slaps with his shots and has absolutely pathetic power for top heavy. Fury hits much harder. This was a very safe kinda fight for aj.

[Cutthroat]

Rubbish!

Ortiz is not hard to hit, he was getting tagged by Jennings and Tony Thompson with ease. He would be a tough fight but he’d get knocked out.

He ate a handful of punches at the most from BOTH fighters, neither fight was close at all, Parker gets hit significantly more.

Ruiz was landing at will, so was Takam and Fury.

[Sheldon312]

After today I’ll have to question the faster part. He looked slow both feet and hands had trouble catching up to Parker.

Ortiz is old but his hands still have snap. His legs aren’t fast but his hand speed is still there.

I'm basing this off of the past fights from both guys. Joshua isn't the fastest HW. That goes to Parker. But he is faster than Ortiz. The fight wouldn't be easy but Joshua would beat Ortiz due to strength, size, and applying pressure

[BillyBoxing]

Jennings, he was ranked higher than Takam, Fury, and Ruiz all guys that have pushed Parker to his limit. Jennings went a full 12 and gave Wlad one of his tougher fights, more so than Pulev, Wach, Pedvetkin, Haye, etc.

Ortiz completely outclassed Jennings. Parker also looked very lackluster vs Cojanu who made fun of him for not having any power.

So his best win is Jennings coming off a loss?

[BoxingTech718]

I'm basing this off of the past fights from both guys. Joshua isn't the fastest HW. That goes to Parker. But he is faster than Ortiz. The fight wouldn't be easy but Joshua would beat Ortiz due to strength, size, and applying pressure

I don’t think strength would apply too much. All HWs are strong. And I don’t see how AJ is going to pressure a veteran like Ortiz that knows how to beat pressure. But he couldn’t intelligently pressure Parker who is inferior to Ortiz technically.

[Bum squad]

I know many people will not be able to agree through their own agendas but Joshua never got out of second gear tonight because he didn't have to.Parker is a throw back Durable guy but limited because he lacks real power. I would give Parker a good chance of beating Wilder though who lacks the skills to keep him away all night.

[Godsfly]

Rubbish!

Ortiz is not hard to hit, he was getting tagged by Jennings and Tony Thompson with ease. He would be a tough fight but he’d get knocked out.

or ether aj would get knocked flat out. Look dude. Ortiz punches with you, it throws You completely off. Not only that but he does it through the southpa stance. He would make aj give his ground and tag him all day long as he's moving backwards, can aj even fight going backwards? I break down styles. In order for aj to beat someone like king kong he would have to dig deep make it a war and just servive it man. There is nothing that Joshua does that would blow King Kong out from a strategy point of view nothing that he could do. The talent is just not there and severely overrated no matter what the UK is saying. This is the problem when u baby fighters.

[Cutthroat]

So his best win is Jennings coming off a loss?

A DOMINANT win over a Jennings coming off a competitive decision loss to Wlad the former #1 guy in the division. Jennings was ranked higher than Ruiz, Fury and Takam.

Ruiz landed 60% of his power punches vs Parker, Ortiz would've blasted Parker with ease.

[Sheldon312]

I don’t think strength would apply too much. All HWs are strong. And I don’t see how AJ is going to pressure a veteran like Ortiz that knows how to beat pressure. But he couldn’t intelligently pressure Parker who is inferior to Ortiz technically.

Joshua cut off the ring pretty well against Parker. Ortiz is strong but he is not stronger than Joshua. Take Joe Frazier vs Foreman. Frazier was strong but it was Foreman's strength plus power that one the day. You guys are always going to side with an American no matter what. Just because Wilder is black and American doesn't mean that we get to prop him and him opponents up to down another fighter who is much better ( in almost every category) Ortiz was a good fighter but he is not some elite "HW" that you guys have made him out to be.