Why didn't Takam have to fight Whyte first to get Joshua?

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  • Kezzer
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    #11
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    You guys know damn well that Wilder, as the WBC champion, can never be named mandatory for any of the belts Joshua has.
    Right? So why ask the question then, it’s completly irrelevant comparison to why wilder refuses to fight Joshua yet

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #12
      If Wilder was reasonable in his demands for Joshua nobody would be talking about Whyte.

      If Wilder was serious he'd ask for the same deal as Parker, Joshua then has zero choice to accept or look like a bitch. Won't happen though because Wilder doesn't want the fight.
      Last edited by Robbie Barrett; 03-30-2018, 12:09 PM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        When Wilder said put it in the contract to fight AJ after Hearn laughed it off. Now he's saying yes.

        Hearn just wants to make Whyte-Wilder so either way the winner fights AJ for big money and I believe he is using Whyte as a sacrificial lamb to make Wilder-AJ bigger with no risk behind it because even if Whyte beats him he doesn't care anyway because he can still do AJ-Whyte 2.

        Hearn couldn't care less about what the fans want. He cares solely about his pockets.
        I think he probably cares about his fighters pockets as well. You are right about the no lose scenario, but it's no lose for everyone involved to be fair. You can't say Wilder is getting a raw deal.

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        • Kezzer
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          #14
          Originally posted by sunny31
          I think he probably cares about his fighters pockets as well. You are right about the no lose scenario, but it's no lose for everyone involved to be fair. You can't say Wilder is getting a raw deal.
          I doubt we can complain too much.

          2015 - 5 fights finishing with commonwealth belt win against Cornish & British belt against Whyte - both unbeaten at the time.

          2016 - Wins title against Martin and defends against Breazeale (unbeaten at the time) and demolishes Molina, who had Wilder in trouble.

          2017 - Unification against Klitschko and then defends against mandatory (Takam)

          2018 - Unification against Parker. Subject to winning it appears likely he will mandatory defence against Povetkin and then potential further fight end of year (maybe Miller in NY).

          Let’s be honest, there is no “easy” fight - other than in hindsight - amongst them. He has also been far more active than some other champions do. If that happens and he fights Wilder in 2019 not many can have too much legitimate complaints.

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            #15
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            Why is that only reserved for Deontay Wilder?
            They'll just say that Takam was a replacement for Pulev. The real question is why does Wilder's worth matter when the other opponents didn't have to go through that kind of scrutiny before making the fight Joshua's stiff ass.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Kezzer
              Right? So why ask the question then, it’s completly irrelevant comparison to why wilder refuses to fight Joshua yet
              When did Wilder refuse to fight Joshua?

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                #17
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                When Wilder said put it in the contract to fight AJ after Hearn laughed it off. Now he's saying yes.

                Hearn just wants to make Whyte-Wilder so either way the winner fights AJ for big money and I believe he is using Whyte as a sacrificial lamb to make Wilder-AJ bigger with no risk behind it because even if Whyte beats him he doesn't care anyway because he can still do AJ-Whyte 2.

                Hearn couldn't care less about what the fans want. He cares solely about his pockets.
                Well said.

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                • Kezzer
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                  #18
                  You could ask the question the other way.

                  Why won’t Wilder take on his number one contender for his biggest payday ever?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Kezzer
                    You could ask the question the other way.

                    Why won’t Wilder take on his number one contender for his biggest payday ever?
                    Because he's waiting to see if the stiff one beats Parker so he can ask him for a fight. He was going to meet him in the ring face to face, but a restraining order threat and the crying by Hearn and Joshua disallowed that.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      When Wilder said put it in the contract to fight AJ after Hearn laughed it off. Now he's saying yes.

                      Hearn just wants to make Whyte-Wilder so either way the winner fights AJ for big money and I believe he is using Whyte as a sacrificial lamb to make Wilder-AJ bigger with no risk behind it because even if Whyte beats him he doesn't care anyway because he can still do AJ-Whyte 2.

                      Hearn couldn't care less about what the fans want. He cares solely about his pockets.

                      The fans really don't give much of a **** about Wilder. He is an awful boxer who had to have a lesson in how to jab from Lennox Lewis in a parking lot 5 years ago.

                      Alot of people believe Whyte would beat him.

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