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  • IwatchBoxing
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    #141
    Originally posted by xcaret
    i was referring to ruiz being a loser. Not insulting what he is


    He lost to a Dominican btw.
    Vicente Escobedo vs Daniel Jimenez HL



    They were promoting it as a Puerto Rico vs Mexico, but after Escobedo got owned, they blamed the match maker and said he was Dominican lol! End of fight he deicates it to PR

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    • Mech.
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      #142
      Originally posted by xcaret
      Iwatch is heart broken now that he found out one of his idols is part Mexican lol... Are you still a fan of his iwatch??? I doubt it lmfao..



      Iwatch dont cry man its ok
      lol.....................

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      • bsrizpac
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        #143
        You picked two, horrable, horrable rounds to make your case. Chavez worked for 3 full rounds and won these rounds, while mayweather at most worked 1 minute of these two rounds.

        I should educate you a little about chavez but not right now. But i gureentee you Mayweather will not be standing still at all with margarito, and if you think hatton fighting mayweather will look similar to Chavez then i lol, you are talking about two differnt/but little similare styles.

        i gurentee you maywather loses in manchester to hatton, mayweathr does not like to get hit in the body and hatton would tie him up and beat him down little by little.

        Horrable, horrable rounds to you chose to favor mayweather.

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        Really? Is that why Chavez head was bouncing around like a pogo stick?

        Btw, punches that bounce off of someone elbows dont count as scoring punches. Just a heads up. Also, he never gets to Floyds head with any consistency. He hits him a few times, wow, I guess that cool since you don't see that much.

        Meanwhile Chavez is getting hit with tons of CLEAN punches.

        And I like Chavez btw, but he lost that fight and badly.

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        • ferocity
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          #144
          Originally posted by Black Jesus
          He doesnt understand it and he never will. Ive tried to emphasize this point to him before, it doesnt matter, if a mexican fighter loses there is always some foolish excuse as to why it happend. Such as Whittaker hitting low repeatedly on Chavez (like chavez never headbutted/low blowed his way to victory and hes exagerrating anyway) or that Vargas outpointed Winky Wright, or that Jesus Chavez was winning, or Jose Luis Castillo lost against mayweather in the 2nd fight because they werent in LA. Or that De La Hoya would KO Winky Wright. Or that Mayweather is scared of a no-name overgrown welterweight named Antonio Margarito.

          The list goes on, ive just accepted that the only fighters who really matter to him are mexicans, and he watches to sport to watch mexicans excel and thats basically it.
          no, at first i watched boxing to learn. from what you wrote you'd be surprised the fighters i've read about who arn't mexican. if your a boixng fan, and you don't have pride for your own then your own probably don't exile in boxing.

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          • oldgringo
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            #145
            Originally posted by ferocity
            no, chavez corner stopped the fight, and just to let you.....chavez isn't a puncher!

            stopped is stopped.

            chavez is an accumulation puncher. i have seen plenty of chavez and i respect him as a fighter.

            floyd still put it on him, as much as you wouldn't like to admit it.

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            • bsrizpac
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              #146
              Originally posted by ferocity
              no, chavez corner stopped the fight, and just to let you.....chavez isn't a puncher!
              Why did they stop the fight again? Just for fun? Did they just get tired of being there and want to go home?

              Or did they see their fighter getting hurt badly?

              I like chavez. He's a good fighter. But he took a beating there. And I'm sorry if your Mexican roots cant even allow you to see when your own fighter lost badly.

              It'd be like me being from the US and saying something like "Lacy was waiting to bait Calzaghe into his trap." Yeah, sure he was.

              And yeah that's great he's not a "puncher", neither is Hatton. Please see how he fought KT, or Collazo or even how long he took to break and old Vince Phillips down.

              Btw, AT throws much slower and wider than Chaver or JLC. And he may pressure but his style is much different.

              The comparisons to people you think "beat" Floyd (lol) end at he's a Mexican, he pressures opponents, and you think he'll also "beat" Floyd.
              Last edited by bsrizpac; 06-17-2006, 08:22 PM.

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              • Amaro
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                #147
                actually the mayweather and jesus chavez fight was a great showing of mayweather's defensive skills, he had him punching and punching while missing and missing and eventually by the 7th just ran out of steam

                it's actually a gameplan commonly used for mayweather, it's what he did with zab too

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                • flipside
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by xcaret
                  ??? are you ok? Very unlikely? haha wow, go out more seriously, you need to. He said it himself, you actually think im making this **** up?
                  how can 3 parts of a whole be half ******? if chico said it then you two are ****** becasue you believe him without thinking

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                  • ecord
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                    #149
                    You have to make this comparison of fighters when they are BOTH in their prime. Perfect example: Chavez vs Taylor they were both undefeated. Taylor BOXED a great fight. Chavez just hurt him too much during the entire fight.

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                    • xcaret
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by flipside
                      how can 3 parts of a whole be half ******? if chico said it then you two are ****** becasue you believe him without thinking
                      When it comes to 3 its cause either the mom or dad are mixed mexican-colombian and the other black. Chico maybe just half black half mexican. And wtf are you doing here anyways, shouldnt you be in a pacquiao thread?

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