Suspect PED users that got away or never failed PED test

[M Bison]

Mayweather
Marquez

Lil Gigee
Manny poocheyaw
Wladmer clitsko
Vital clitsko
Joe calsaggy

[Robbie Barrett]

lol, answer the questions I asked. Stop repeating yourself over and over, it doesn't make your opinion a fact.

Read the thread title. Every fighter mentioned will be opinion because they'd have been caught if it was fact, wouldn't they?

[thesmokingman]

Read the thread title. Every fighter mentioned will be opinion because they'd have been caught if it was fact, wouldn't they?

Why do you keep quoting me if you won't answer my questions then? I'm trying to understand why you feel Pac is guilty w/o any proof other than him not agreeing to testing to the degree Mayweather wanted. The questions I asked will help me understand why you feel a guy who never failed a test is more su****ious than other boxers who ooze su****ion?

[Boksfan]

Mayweather
Marquez

Floyd tested positive on many occasions tho.

[apollocreed]

Floyd tested positive on many occasions tho.

When did Floyd test positive, and for what substance?

[thesmokingman]

When did Floyd test positive, and for what substance?

Not exactly positive but for su****iously low T:E ratios. Normally that would call for a CIR test to confirm masking. But USADA never called for CIR Testing which is highly su****ious in itself. Abnormally low T:E ratio generally means masking of the true T:E ratio. This is done by raising episterone levels to bring elevated testosterone levels down to a ratio that is below USADA's threshold which is a T:E of 4:1. Floyd's T:E's in these su****ious results were lower than 1:1 which is impossible for a world level athlete. This is what's called abnormally low, which equates to probable masking agent.

A CIR test would have uncovered this, but as I wrote USADA never called for a CIR test and allowed this to go nowhere.

Also, this is where VADA differs from USADA. USADA allows a threshold of abuse of testosterone. Normal male T:E ratio is 1.2:1 to 1.4:1. That measn you can literally use steroids until you hit 4:1 ratio. Once you pass 4:1, then USADA considers that a fail. Thus under USADA you can still use PEDs, you just have to stay under 4:1 T:E ratio.

However under VADA, there is no threshold, there is no allowed use of steroids at all as they go straight to the CIR test as a front line prevention test. This is huge for the cheater. One has much wiggle room, and the other allows ZERO wiggle. CIR test detects synthetic testosterone!

[Robbie Barrett]

Not exactly positive but for su****iously low T:E ratios. Normally that would call for a CIR test to confirm masking. But USADA never called for CIR Testing which is highly su****ious in itself. Abnormally low T:E ratio generally means masking of the true T:E ratio. This is done by raising episterone levels to bring elevated testosterone levels down to a ratio that is below USADA's threshold which is a T:E of 4:1. Floyd's T:E's in these su****ious results were lower than 1:1 which is impossible for a world level athlete. This is what's called abnormally low, which equates to probable masking agent.

A CIR test would have uncovered this, but as I wrote USADA never called for a CIR test and allowed this to go nowhere.

As i said you know nothing. Be quiet little man.

"Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s unsubstantiated claims that USADA does not utilize CIR testing on the basis that it is “unnecessary and too expensive,” USADA absolutely conducts CIR testing as part of our professional boxing testing programs. For instance, CIR testing was conducted on all 22 urine samples collected from both Mr. Mayweather and Mr. Pacquiao during the testing program in advance of their May 2, 2015 fight."


https://www.usada.org/usada-response...oxing-article/

[Boksfan]

When did Floyd test positive, and for what substance?

Boy are you ******

[Boksfan]

Not exactly positive but for su****iously low T:E ratios. Normally that would call for a CIR test to confirm masking. But USADA never called for CIR Testing which is highly su****ious in itself. Abnormally low T:E ratio generally means masking of the true T:E ratio. This is done by raising episterone levels to bring elevated testosterone levels down to a ratio that is below USADA's threshold which is a T:E of 4:1. Floyd's T:E's in these su****ious results were lower than 1:1 which is impossible for a world level athlete. This is what's called abnormally low, which equates to probable masking agent.

A CIR test would have uncovered this, but as I wrote USADA never called for a CIR test and allowed this to go nowhere.

Also, this is where VADA differs from USADA. USADA allows a threshold of abuse of testosterone. Normal male T:E ratio is 1.2:1 to 1.4:1. That measn you can literally use steroids until you hit 4:1 ratio. Once you pass 4:1, then USADA considers that a fail. Thus under USADA you can still use PEDs, you just have to stay under 4:1 T:E ratio.

However under VADA, there is no threshold, there is no allowed use of steroids at all as they go straight to the CIR test as a front line prevention test. This is huge for the cheater. One has much wiggle room, and the other allows ZERO wiggle. CIR test detects synthetic testosterone!

Thanks for explaining, I couldn't be bothered.

[RussB23]

Manny
Floyd
AJ even though im a big fan