Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Canelo's Tests, Loma-Linares, Charlo-Jacobs

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The Daily Bread Mailbag returns with Stephen "Breadman" Edwards tackling numerous topics, like the ongoing controversy with Canelo Alvarez's positive drug tests ahead of his rematch with Gennady Golovkin, several fantasy fights, thoughts on Virgil Hunter as a trainer, WBO featherweight champion Oscar Valdez and more.
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[siablo14]

Fresh out da oven.

[Bronx2245]

"Golovkin is also going through moral dilemma. If he pulls out of the fight he loses his career high payday at 36. I’m not even sure he can get his camp money back if he pulls out. If the fight gets cancelled he can but fights of this magnitude don’t get cancelled. GGG is not a scientist. He doesn’t know how much Canelo benefited from Clenbuterol 3 months out from the fight. It’s a tough position to be in."

Will the church say "AMEN." This should be a case just like Povetkin or Ortiz. GGG should be able to recoup his camp money, and the fight should be postponed until September, while Canelo undergoes full VADA!

[Tutsa]

Always a great read when you write , thank you BF for explaining that GGG is not just a fighter but a human just like us . In rewtatched the first fight and what I noticed was how Canelo abosred GGG punches that hurt or dropped other fighters . I believe Canelo started to PED use right before the Kirkland fight !! If you go back when he son his first title against M. Hatton he got hurt from a smaller man . There is know way he hits harded then JK and GGG which landed much harder punches then the shot he took from Hatton . If Saul wants to prove his innocence and wipe all the doubters he would volunteer take a hair test to shut everyone up but his team won't allow it !!

[petegrif]

I love reading your stuff, Bread. SO much better than the overwhelming majority of boxing content.

I found two things about the Canelo situation very disturbing:

a) the obvious radical physical transformation in a short time.

Most people don't understand how hard it is to put on lean muscle without PEDs. There is a real and well understood limit to this. Human beings do vary as to how fast they can put on lean muscle but there are still limits. (I can posts references to serious scientific studies on this if anyone is interested)

b) just how high his dirty samples were.

The first two samples were much higher (the first 14X and the second 7X) than the readings that got Canelo banned from cycling for two years - and he claimed his readings were from tainted meat.

I can't KNOW what happened but it doesn't look good at all.

In the circumstances I think we should give GGG a break.

[HarvardBlue]

Virgil Hunter is a really good trainer. I saw a video of him speaking on the Jacobs-Golovkin fight. He made some really good points.

I'm not sure Winky Wright could beat Lara. It would've been a tough fight but I would give Lara the edge.

I also thought Dirrell had the edge over Uzcategui but I thought he had to make some major adjustments. I didn't think Uzcategui could fight any better in the second fight but he did. A whole lot better. It almost looked like a mismatch in the rematch

[j0zef]

Great blog as always. Agree on pretty much everything, but especially Valdez. He's exciting, and he's must see TV but he will need to adapt.

[StephenM]

Great stuff Breadman. You're a scholar and a gentleman.

[Illmatic94]

GGG should just push for the fight to take place. if he loses Canelo gets zero credit. if he wins then he's a hero for beating the cheater. win-win scenario. if they turn to Billy Hoe they're gonna have a hard time dealing with that delusional mofo. in Billy's head he calls the shots vs GGG. those negotiations will drag out and GGG doesn't even make half what the Canelo fight brings.

[BigStomps]

Always a great read when you write , thank you BF for explaining that GGG is not just a fighter but a human just like us . In rewtatched the first fight and what I noticed was how Canelo abosred GGG punches that hurt or dropped other fighters . I believe Canelo started to PED use right before the Kirkland fight !! If you go back when he son his first title against M. Hatton he got hurt from a smaller man . There is know way he hits harded then JK and GGG which landed much harder punches then the shot he took from Hatton . If Saul wants to prove his innocence and wipe all the doubters he would volunteer take a hair test to shut everyone up but his team won't allow it !!

Shut the fucc up you piece of shet!
Hate ****** punk motherfuccers like you who think they know it all...
Now you know exactly when Canelo started using PED's huh??
You ****** punk ass child ******er!
The reason Canelo was able to withstand Triple g's punches better than other fighters is because he's an all around better fighter than all the other fighters triple g has fought.
Think about it you ****** motherfuccer!
And now your comparing a 20 year old Canelo with today's Canelo??
What, a fighter isn't allowed to improve over the years??
Just because your still the same piece of shet loser today that you were 20 years ago and you haven't accomplished anything in life doesn't mean everyone is a bum like you.
No fucc off punk cause you don't know shet about boxing!