Comments Thread For: Making Sense Out Of The UFC Signing Anthony Joshua

[lex_fugitive]

Oh, ok, Andreas Hale says AJ is worth $50 mill a fight, that must make it true.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, no one is paying AJ half a billion for 10 fights. Here in the states, AJ isn't going to be a real big deal until he fights Wilder. And beating Wilder is no sure thing. That is pretty close to a 50/50 fight. And as AJ's fans admit, even Wilder isn't that big in the U.S.

But assuming AJ fought and beat Wilder, who else is there that anyone in the states would be willing to pay to see fight AJ? Miller, lmao. Whyte? Haye? Povetkin? Sorry, but AJ is not Mayweather, he is not selling millions of ppvs for $100 a pop. Even Floyd needed dance partners. ODLH, Canelo, Pac, McGregor...

I have yet to hear one person explain how anyone is going to pay AJ that much per fight. Yea, if Dana White offers AJ $50 million instead of $15 or $20 mill to fight Whyte and Miller, then yes, of course AJ would sign with him in a heartbeat. But not one person has tried to explain how Dana White can afford to pay AJ over twice as much as Hearn can. This opinion piece, simply says, yea but its Dana White, so he can do it. Unless Dana White is selling shares of UFC to pay AJ, this is nothing but a bunch of b.s.

[Removed Now]

I think Floyd just choked on a bottle of $5000 water after seeing that 500mil deal potential offer

[Rock&Roll]

"Boxing Clever" and "Random Hitz" articles are way better and informative. These op-eds by Hale really suck. I mean, forreal. You talk about substance, but where is it? All this article is just bulli**** gossip. "Joshua is a big star in the UK, can he be in US?", "This the type of signing Zuffa needs", "Can White pull this off" like gtfoh with that. Not to mention the condescending 1st part. Trash article.

If you enjoy pop music, good for you.
Unfortunately, i do not.

[WhitehouseTKO]

Nothing against AJ or this potential deal, however I don't see anyone making him popular in the states. Wlad was champ for 10 years and he couldn't pull the interest in states like he did overseas. I don't think US cares that much about heavyweight boxing. They are slow lumbering boring fights for most part. As an american I feel the boxing climate here is more about the little guys that throw punches for 10-12 rounds 125-160 is where its at in america. Those are the stars, the most talked about fighters. I might be wrong but I dont' get the vibe that AJ is the one to break the mold here in US, no heavyweight will.

[WallabeeKing]

If you enjoy pop music, good for you.
Unfortunately, i do not.

There is actually nothing of substance in the article, but do you.

[Rock&Roll]

End of conversation

There is actually nothing of substance in the article, but do you.

Notice the gap between writing? This is called a paragraph. When one changes topics, they generally start a new paragraph. I had changed topics when talking about substance.
Try to keep up.

The story is based on speculation. The stock market and financial system is hugely driven by speculation, so surely a thought provoking article can speculate. Mr Hale is putting thought and word towards a potential situation with the #1 hw champ. This requires some intellect and analytical skill.

I was about to continue but no, *** it. You are an idiot, and i am not going to be dragged down to your level and beaten with experience. You read the copy and paste crap, and i'll read thought provoking articles where a real journailist is required. Peace.

[Eff Pandas]

depending on how the deal is structured, you're talking about 10 fights over 4 years, 8 of which as the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

Parker and wilder get you to the undisputed championship, and then you'd have the povetkin-price winner, the wba mandatory, tyson fury, jarell miller, a wilder rematch, and at least 3 other fights (yoka, dubois, haye if he starches bellew, young american heavyweight, regional attractions, etc).

As long as the fighter gets the lion's share of the take, the money is earned well; if they want to turn around and try to save the world, that's on them

lmfao.....

[Eff Pandas]

There is actually nothing of substance in the article

Right.

Every time I read this cats articles I think "damn I could be a boxing writer in my spare time I think". And thats not good cuz I don't correctly use there vs their like 80% of the time probably.

[Eff Pandas]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, no one is paying AJ half a billion for 10 fights.

Honestly if Joshua becomes as big as he seems like he could become $50M a fight might be a bargain. $60M (assume 50M for Joshua & 10M for his opponent on average) in PPV revenue = about 1.5M Buys (at $80 a pop) to break even.

So basically 15M PPV buys over 10 fights = break even. Thats not THAT crazy if Joshua pans out in the US (& these figures aren't even counting UK PPV + worldwide TV money & fight sponsors & etc & so on). And anything over 15M buys = profit.

And granted Joshua isn't even made a play in the US market yet so obviously this is highly speculative, but I think this cat could do those sorta numbers with the right promotion behind him & growing into himself. This mfer looks the part like no one since Tyson one could argue.

But assuming AJ fought and beat Wilder, who else is there that anyone in the states would be willing to pay to see fight AJ? Miller, lmao. Whyte? Haye? Povetkin? Sorry, but AJ is not Mayweather, he is not selling millions of ppvs for $100 a pop. Even Floyd needed dance partners. ODLH, Canelo, Pac, McGregor...

HW boxing is a different animal than most other divisions. Idk that you need a Spence vs Thurman at HW type fight to sell big numbers. And I think the guys you have mentioned are guys who'd sell enough & this would be a 4 year deal at a minimum probably so there are guys who aren't even there yet who are opponent 7, 8, 9 & 10.

But obviously this whole thing is highly speculative cuz we don't even know for sure if the UFC is thinking these sorta numbers (I do think they would wanna sign Joshua cuz who f#cking wouldn't) or if Joshua would legit consider leaving Hearn (as he seems opposed to) or about a dozen other variables with all of this so its mainly a fun lil topic to theorize on & speculate about, but I do think it would be doable.

[Scipio2009]

Oh, ok, Andreas Hale says AJ is worth $50 mill a fight, that must make it true.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, no one is paying AJ half a billion for 10 fights. Here in the states, AJ isn't going to be a real big deal until he fights Wilder. And beating Wilder is no sure thing. That is pretty close to a 50/50 fight. And as AJ's fans admit, even Wilder isn't that big in the U.S.

But assuming AJ fought and beat Wilder, who else is there that anyone in the states would be willing to pay to see fight AJ? Miller, lmao. Whyte? Haye? Povetkin? Sorry, but AJ is not Mayweather, he is not selling millions of ppvs for $100 a pop. Even Floyd needed dance partners. ODLH, Canelo, Pac, McGregor...

I have yet to hear one person explain how anyone is going to pay AJ that much per fight. Yea, if Dana White offers AJ $50 million instead of $15 or $20 mill to fight Whyte and Miller, then yes, of course AJ would sign with him in a heartbeat. But not one person has tried to explain how Dana White can afford to pay AJ over twice as much as Hearn can. This opinion piece, simply says, yea but its Dana White, so he can do it. Unless Dana White is selling shares of UFC to pay AJ, this is nothing but a bunch of b.s.

Beating Deontay Wilder makes Anthony Joshua the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world.

It's going to sound crazy at first, but it won't really who Anthony Joshua fights once he's globally seen as THE heavyweight champion.

Joshua-Klitschko ended up splitting $40m, without the benefit of US PPV. Add in US PPV and the numbers get obscene.