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  • oscar9992
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    Lomachenko and Linares will undergo through advanced VADA doping testing!

    Lomachenko and Linares will undergo through advanced VADA doping testing!




    Quote from ESPN...
    Lightweight champion Jorge Linares and pound-for-pound king Vasiliy Lomachenko, whose May 12 showdown in the Top Rank ESPN main event at New York's Madison Square Garden was announced Wednesday, will be randomly tested by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association, Top Rank vice president Carl Moretti told ESPN. Moretti also said that while the co-feature isn't set – but expected to be world title bout -- several of the company’s top up-and-comers will be on the undercard, including recently signed welterweight Carlos Adames (13-0, 11 KOs) and three 2016 Olympians, lightweight Teofimo Lopez Jr. (8-0, 6 KOs), featherweight Shakur Stevenson (5-0, 2 KOs), a U.S. silver medalist, and junior welterweight Fazliddin Gaibnazarov (3-0, 1 KO), a gold medalist from Uzbekistan who has been idle since September because of a shoulder injury. A fourth Olympian, Irish featherweight Michael Conlan (6-0, 5 KOs) also might appear on the show, Moretti said.
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    Remember when VADA first started up? They said they were needed, because USADA would do testing for fights for less than 8 weeks before the fight. To be credible, and have any meaning, VADA said testing had to be done for over 8 weeks immediately before the fight.

    Now, six weeks out, they will undergo real testing for the five weeks before the fight, none for the next five months, and then again for the month immediately before their next fight.

    Yes, I'm sure if both of them were juicing like crazy for the last 5 months and now quit for a month and a half, all those roids won't do them any good on May 12.

    Guess what? Linares is also already under year-round VADA testing. Not Loma though. He never has been and never will be. He tests for a few weeks before a fight and that is it. If the testing was that close for Canelo, he would have passed too. That extra couple weeks, threw him off. Loma, don't play that b.s. though. You wanna test him, you gotta let him know when! Stuff don't stay in your system long, but you still gotta have some heads up.

    Loma's refusal to sign up for WBC and VADA testing is highly su****ious. Everyone calling Canelo a cheat, should admit this "testing" for Loma is b.s.

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      #3
      Originally posted by lex_fugitive
      Remember when VADA first started up? They said they were needed, because USADA would do testing for fights for less than 8 weeks before the fight. To be credible, and have any meaning, VADA said testing had to be done for over 8 weeks immediately before the fight.

      Now, six weeks out, they will undergo real testing for the five weeks before the fight, none for the next five months, and then again for the month immediately before their next fight.

      Yes, I'm sure if both of them were juicing like crazy for the last 5 months and now quit for a month and a half, all those roids won't do them any good on May 12.

      Guess what? Linares is also already under year-round VADA testing. Not Loma though. He never has been and never will be. He tests for a few weeks before a fight and that is it. If the testing was that close for Canelo, he would have passed too. That extra couple weeks, threw him off. Loma, don't play that b.s. though. You wanna test him, you gotta let him know when! Stuff don't stay in your system long, but you still gotta have some heads up.

      Loma's refusal to sign up for WBC and VADA testing is highly su****ious. Everyone calling Canelo a cheat, should admit this "testing" for Loma is b.s.

      Honestly I doubt Loma is cheating at all... He is 2 time Olympic Champion & won countless Amateur World Championships. He doesn't need to cheat all.

      Also Ukrainians have a clean image in all of these unlike... let's say russians.
      Last edited by oscar9992; 03-23-2018, 09:20 AM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by lex_fugitive
        Remember when VADA first started up? They said they were needed, because USADA would do testing for fights for less than 8 weeks before the fight. To be credible, and have any meaning, VADA said testing had to be done for over 8 weeks immediately before the fight.

        Now, six weeks out, they will undergo real testing for the five weeks before the fight, none for the next five months, and then again for the month immediately before their next fight.

        Yes, I'm sure if both of them were juicing like crazy for the last 5 months and now quit for a month and a half, all those roids won't do them any good on May 12.

        Guess what? Linares is also already under year-round VADA testing. Not Loma though. He never has been and never will be. He tests for a few weeks before a fight and that is it. If the testing was that close for Canelo, he would have passed too. That extra couple weeks, threw him off. Loma, don't play that b.s. though. You wanna test him, you gotta let him know when! Stuff don't stay in your system long, but you still gotta have some heads up.

        Loma's refusal to sign up for WBC and VADA testing is highly su****ious. Everyone calling Canelo a cheat, should admit this "testing" for Loma is b.s.
        Everyone is calling Clenelo a cheat because he popped, you fool, it's not just falling out of the sky random "bullsht".

        That aside, I'd like to apologize for calling you a fool. So it's a fact that Loma isn't on the clean boxing program etc? (article?)

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          #5
          Originally posted by lex_fugitive
          Remember when VADA first started up? They said they were needed, because USADA would do testing for fights for less than 8 weeks before the fight. To be credible, and have any meaning, VADA said testing had to be done for over 8 weeks immediately before the fight.

          Now, six weeks out, they will undergo real testing for the five weeks before the fight, none for the next five months, and then again for the month immediately before their next fight.

          Yes, I'm sure if both of them were juicing like crazy for the last 5 months and now quit for a month and a half, all those roids won't do them any good on May 12.

          Guess what? Linares is also already under year-round VADA testing. Not Loma though. He never has been and never will be. He tests for a few weeks before a fight and that is it. If the testing was that close for Canelo, he would have passed too. That extra couple weeks, threw him off. Loma, don't play that b.s. though. You wanna test him, you gotta let him know when! Stuff don't stay in your system long, but you still gotta have some heads up.

          Loma's refusal to sign up for WBC and VADA testing is highly su****ious. Everyone calling Canelo a cheat, should admit this "testing" for Loma is b.s.

          To be fair to Lomachckhoe : WBC and VADA year round testing is a scam anyway.

          They don't have enough money to effectively, not even strategically, perform at least 1 test per year for all the fighters enrolled.




          Even Thomas Hauser is staying away from the CBP. Lol. He used to write articles congratulating the program.


          Yet not a peep from him since Canelo tested for Clen.



          Until VADA consistently implements a passport style test, and stop relying on idle 365 threats, they will remain a joke of a testing agency.



          * Edit *

          I'll add a few articles to back up my shlt talking

          Congratulations to the WBC and VADA
          BY THOMAS HAUSER
          ON SEP 29 2017 2:37 PM



          In this article you will find Hauser praise VADA WBC CBP for catching ORTIZ - a week after it was reported ORTIZ tested positive.


          WILDER-ORTIZ AND THE PED SHADOW
          BY THOMAS HAUSER
          ON JAN 24 2018


          Here HAUSER bashes NYSAC, questions the authenticity of the WBC and CBP and practically starts gofundme for VADA


          VADA gets 25.00 per month per fighter
          That's 300.00 per year
          (One CIR test 400.00)
          Last edited by Dosumpthin; 03-23-2018, 10:48 AM.

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            #6
            Originally posted by lex_fugitive
            Remember when VADA first started up? They said they were needed, because USADA would do testing for fights for less than 8 weeks before the fight. To be credible, and have any meaning, VADA said testing had to be done for over 8 weeks immediately before the fight.

            Now, six weeks out, they will undergo real testing for the five weeks before the fight, none for the next five months, and then again for the month immediately before their next fight.

            Yes, I'm sure if both of them were juicing like crazy for the last 5 months and now quit for a month and a half, all those roids won't do them any good on May 12.

            Guess what? Linares is also already under year-round VADA testing. Not Loma though. He never has been and never will be. He tests for a few weeks before a fight and that is it. If the testing was that close for Canelo, he would have passed too. That extra couple weeks, threw him off. Loma, don't play that b.s. though. You wanna test him, you gotta let him know when! Stuff don't stay in your system long, but you still gotta have some heads up.

            Loma's refusal to sign up for WBC and VADA testing is highly su****ious. Everyone calling Canelo a cheat, should admit this "testing" for Loma is b.s.
            Innocent until proven guilty. Hats off to Linares though, I didnt know he was doing year around test.

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            • lex_fugitive
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              #7
              Originally posted by Dosumpthin
              To be fair to Lomachckhoe : WBC and VADA year round testing is a scam anyway.

              They don't have enough money to effectively, not even strategically, perform at least 1 test per year for all the fighters enrolled.




              Even Thomas Hauser is staying away from the CBP. Lol. He used to write articles congratulating the program.


              Yet not a peep from him since Canelo tested for Clen.



              Until VADA consistently implements a passport style test, and stop relying on idle 365 threats, they will remain a joke of a testing agency.
              Hauser has absolutely no credibility anyway. He admitted over half his story about Mayweather was entirely fiction, that he made up. HAUSER ADMITTED THIS. He was paid by hbo to write blogs badmouthing Floyd and everyone else who left hbo. That was what he was doing. HBO paid for that. Espn and other outlets ran USADA and Mayweather's answer and then Hauser's admission of lying, but that was after the Pac fight, and it wasn't something bad about Floyd so it didn't receive much attention.

              So to say that hbo's paid writer, literally, the guy hbo pays to write stories and blogs for hbo fighters, isn't bad mouthing hbo and hbo fighters is really common sense.

              And no doubt, they don't test anywhere near enough to make sure no one cheats, but fighters are a lot less likely to cheat if they know there is a chance of them being tested randomly. Also, for the bigger fights, more testing is done. Also for suspected cheats and past cheats. Refusing to even allow for any chance, even a small chance, makes it even more su****ious.

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              • lex_fugitive
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                #8
                Originally posted by Boxfan83
                Innocent until proven guilty. Hats off to Linares though, I didnt know he was doing year around test.
                He was mandatory for Mikey's WBC 135 belt. He had to be. Which might explain why he walked away from his mandatory and a unification fight, instead opting for a simple defense, but one rather win or lose, he will not have to remain in the clean boxing program for.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by lex_fugitive
                  Hauser has absolutely no credibility anyway. He admitted over half his story about Mayweather was entirely fiction, that he made up. HAUSER ADMITTED THIS. He was paid by hbo to write blogs badmouthing Floyd and everyone else who left hbo. That was what he was doing. HBO paid for that. Espn and other outlets ran USADA and Mayweather's answer and then Hauser's admission of lying, but that was after the Pac fight, and it wasn't something bad about Floyd so it didn't receive much attention.

                  So to say that hbo's paid writer, literally, the guy hbo pays to write stories and blogs for hbo fighters, isn't bad mouthing hbo and hbo fighters is really common sense.

                  And no doubt, they don't test anywhere near enough to make sure no one cheats, but fighters are a lot less likely to cheat if they know there is a chance of them being tested randomly. Also, for the bigger fights, more testing is done. Also for suspected cheats and past cheats. Refusing to even allow for any chance, even a small chance, makes it even more su****ious.
                  Where did Hauser admit he lied? Please show us a link.

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                  • lex_fugitive
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SplitSecond
                    Everyone is calling Clenelo a cheat because he popped, you fool, it's not just falling out of the sky random "bullsht".

                    That aside, I'd like to apologize for calling you a fool. So it's a fact that Loma isn't on the clean boxing program etc? (article?)
                    Check anyone on Boxrec. Under their ranking there is a line which reads:

                    VADA CBP: enrolled

                    If that is there, that fighter is actively enrolled in random year round testing, blood and/or urine. If it doesn't say that, the fighter isn't enrolled.

                    This is why many fighters refuse to fight for WBC titles. No other organization does that. The WBA said a year ago that they were going to do something similar. They said it would be in place by the beginning of this year, 2018. This was about March of last year, and no word since then. It appears they abandoned the idea totally after fighters and promoters complained.

                    Still, much respect to the corrupt WBC for doing this, which is a heck of a lot more than any other boxing organization. Now if the WBC treated all fighters the same, it might be a stand up organization.

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