Comments Thread For: NSAC On Golovkin's Claims: No Favoritism For Canelo in Vegas

[MDPopescu]

"However, the paper states that a second quote from the doctor was "chopped" from Golden Boy's official statement."

Eichner had added, "Further investigation is needed to make a final determination" - which the paper states is because "Canelo's Feb. 17 positive sample contained such a higher level than the positive sample collected on Feb. 20."

Hmmm, nothing at all su****ious about this.

They keep doing the ramdom test until they're negative ok...

Eichner had added, "Further investigation is needed to make a final determination" - which the paper states is because "Canelo's Feb. 17 positive sample contained such a higher level than the positive sample collected on Feb. 20."

Yeah, that part! This is looking very bad!

... so: did he failed two tests, actually?

[SthPaw]

It’s embarrasing.

Canelo is blatantly a product of the corruption in boxing. They want him to be the face of the sport soooo bad that we get this to deal with; a manufacturered and plastic ‘star’.

There is a reason everyone around the scenario, that should be impartial, rushed to defend him and embarrass themselves even now - if you need telling why then God help you because you must be seriously lacking in simple brain functions that allow you to understand basic reality.

Canelo and Co. are operating from a base of corruption, it sickens me that he gets defended by fans...That is exactly what they want - you are allowing your self to be served up and play your role as the dumb little fanboy. Fans that are willing to play the role of the pawn and get chewed up in the masterplan, sad.

There is an abundance of su****ious activity and controversial things surrounding Canelo and has been for years, things I won’t reiterate because a few have posted in this thread and done a fine job already...F**k Canelo and those around him, blatantly operating from a base of corruption. The exact reason that boxing suffers.

[_Rexy_]

It’s embarrasing.

Canelo is blatantly a product of the corruption in boxing. They want him to be the face of the sport soooo bad that we get this to deal with; a manufacturered and plastic ‘star’.

There is a reason everyone around the scenario, that should be impartial, rushed to defend him and embarrass themselves even now - if you need telling why then God help you because you must be seriously lacking in simple brain functions that allow you to understand basic reality.

Canelo and Co. are operating from a base of corruption, it sickens me that he gets defended by fans...That is exactly what they want - you are allowing your self to be served up and play your role as the dumb little fanboy. Fans that are willing to play the role of the pawn and get chewed up in the masterplan, sad.

There is an abundance of su****ious activity and controversial things surrounding Canelo and has been for years, things I won’t reiterate because a few have posted in this thread and done a fine job already...F**k Canelo and those around him, blatantly operating from a base of corruption. The exact reason that boxing suffers.

Why Canelo though? Is there nobody else that Boxing can attach their star to since Floyd retired? Too many instances where Canelo has become a sideshow IMO.

[Bronx2245]

... so: did he failed two tests, actually?

That's what I get. They didn't say "sample B" was lower, they referred to a separate test on a later date. NOT A GOOD LOOK!

[Graz]

Just imagine if it were Golovkin who tested positive. The commission and haters would be all over him like a cheap shirt. I’m not buying this “tainted meat” BS either. Golden Boy had to come up with something. What else could they say? They weren’t going to admit he was injecting PEDs. Canelo and GB can only carry his baby face image so far. He’s been caught and now he should pay for it. One thing for sure. Golovkin better win convincingly or knock him out on May 5 or Vegas will gift Canelo again. We all know this venue picks their favorites and Canelo is one of them $$$.

[SplitSecond]

It’s embarrasing.

Canelo is blatantly a product of the corruption in boxing. They want him to be the face of the sport soooo bad that we get this to deal with; a manufacturered and plastic ‘star’.

There is a reason everyone around the scenario, that should be impartial, rushed to defend him and embarrass themselves even now - if you need telling why then God help you because you must be seriously lacking in simple brain functions that allow you to understand basic reality.

Canelo and Co. are operating from a base of corruption, it sickens me that he gets defended by fans...That is exactly what they want - you are allowing your self to be served up and play your role as the dumb little fanboy. Fans that are willing to play the role of the pawn and get chewed up in the masterplan, sad.

There is an abundance of su****ious activity and controversial things surrounding Canelo and has been for years, things I won’t reiterate because a few have posted in this thread and done a fine job already...F**k Canelo and those around him, blatantly operating from a base of corruption. The exact reason that boxing suffers.

Serious truth here. These idiots are enablers. No respect for themeselves or the sport, a bunch of weak, mentally deficient tools, who think they'd sooner prefer a completely rigged game over admitting that they are on the wrong side. Type of idiots that if they were women, end up regularily beaten by their husbands and just make excuses about how "he's just been in a bad mood lately is all, it's understandable".

[bluemax]

of course, said the accused. I mean it's not like canelo got his first title shot, a vacant belt against legendary matthew hatton who never even fought in the division. No open scoring in his first step up fight against austin trout. Didn't get a draw against floyd on one card in a fight he was embarrassed in. Didn't have wide scores in a fight he could have lost to lara. Didn't fight in a made up weight class just for himself that the sanctioning bodies recognized as legit. Didn't get a draw in a fight he should have lost against golovkin. And definitely didn't have a failed drug test that is swept under the rug. Yep, absolutely no favoritism here, thanks for clearing it uo, carry on!

well said!

[bluemax]

I HOPE PEOPLE ARE HAPPY!! Has anyone seen what's happening to the stock market! Now that Canelo has been called out Drug company stocks are plummeting. Because of all the publicity Canelo has stopped taking all the performance enhancing drugs and the impact is being felt on Wall Street!! Thank God he'll still have the judges and the referee to ensure a win in the rematch. Dela Hoya plans on helping Canelo out by lending him a pair of his luck fish nets for the fight, should put him right over the top!

[nacho daddy]

I believe it, I believe NSAC will be fair and rightfully see Canelo as a clean fighter.

Canelo is a clean fighter, the wbc and the wba is looking at all the evidence and have concluded that they believe it is from mean contamination and nothing else, also the wada accredited doctor collaborated this by his statements on this matter (not this particular matter but this matter in general) and states levels as which canelo had "SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A NEGATIVE TEST".

:boobies:So their is no reason to think NSAC will rule against science and expert advice.

WAR CANELO!

canelo is a clean fighter. hahahah what a phuckin joke. there is no hope for people like you.

[bigdunny1]

Eichner had added, "Further investigation is needed to make a final determination" - which the paper states is because "Canelo's Feb. 17 positive sample contained such a higher level than the positive sample collected on Feb. 20."

Yeah, that part! This is looking very bad!

Golden boy shouldn't of cut out the line but drug expert Memo already explained why you see the drop from 1 test to the 2nd. Folks are now trying to twist that to saying only 1 test had values consistent with meat contamination. Not true WADA own website they state values 1ng or lower are in range for meat contamination. The first test had 0.6-0.8ng lower then 1ng. And the second test had 0.06-0.08ng lower 1ng. What the director said isn't that only 1 test is within range for meat contamination but that since there were 2 test they need to investigate why which Nevada is doing. Everybody was reporting canelo failed 2 tests so it was no need that info was out there but golden boy was trying to act like only 1 test to the public. Means nothing for the investigation since Nevada has always know it was 2 tests.

https://www.am.com.mx/2018/03/07/gen...#ixzz59CFfL8SU

03/07/2018
The contamination of Saul Alvarez was due to consume meat, said Angel Guillermo Heredia.

The physical trainer analyzed on his own the concentrations of clenbuterol that the "Canelo" threw in the voluntary tests carried out by the VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association) on February 17 and 20 in Jalisco.

The result for the Guadalajara man was 0.6 to 0.8 nanograms per milliliter in the first, and 0.06 to 0.08 in the second.

"When doing a mathematical calculation, taking into account what is the half-life of clenbuterol, which is 36 hours, depends on the human being, the activity of the athlete or metabolism of the person, taking those factors, I made an exponential equation and I It gives me an accuracy of 99 percent that amount (of the 'Canelo') is according to consumption of contaminated meat.

"In my opinion, neutral, and as a scientist and with morals, as a professional, with all the experience I have, it is practically due to contamination, since the levels of 'Canelo' are too low, what happens is that there are many problems of clenbuterol in Mexico, "Heredia added.

"There are cases above 20 or 25, or up to 40 nanograms per milliliter, and they are clearly taking that substance as doping, and one point is that the tests were in Mexico, 'Canelo' ate that meat in Mexico."
If today I took a pill, the minimum dose of clenbuterol, which is 0.02 milligrams, means that when I take that pill I will have an amount of 20 ng / ml in the urine, and after 36 hours I will have 10 ng / ml, and after another 36 hours I will have 5 thousand.

Then, the "Canelo" had less than 1 ng / ml, and even lower 3 days later, so it goes according to what is metabolism of clenbuterol, it is nothing, and 'Canelo' for me is clean.