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  • PunchyPotorff
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    #31
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    Ever heard of BoxRec? At least try to keep up.

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    I do use Box Rec and I did look him up and I still never heard of him. I know international referees. Not all, but a lot of them. Seems like most on here don't know this guy or ever heard of him either, so don't come at me with that.
    They should have used international referee Luis Pabon for a fight like this not this Giuseppe Quartarone.

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    Actually, they should use a qualified and neutral ref. Quartarone is both of those.

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    I disagree, they need a referee with high profile big fight experience.

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    Neutral and qualified, and both camps are fine with him. Both know who he is. You're sounding more like a casual every time. Relax and enjoy the fight. Geez, chill out.

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    No sorry son, I'm pretty sure I'm more astute and knowledgeable about the sweet science than you are. I'm far from a casual.

    I'm not the only one who doesn't recognize this dude as a "big" fight referee either, True That. Anyway it is what it is and I will enjoy the fight Trust.

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    I'm 64 now, and have kept up with the sport since I was about 8. So maybe you're taking on quite a stretch. What I said was you were sounding like a casual. If both camps are fine with the guy as being qualified and neutral, I'm fine as well. Anyway, we have a great fight coming in less than 2 weeks. I'm fired up and ready to roll. Hope you enjoy it as well.

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    Absolutely, we definitely have a great fight next Saturday. I've accumulated my sick hours at work this month to use on Saturday March 31st since that fight live for me will be at 3pm or so. Enjoy the fight sir.

    Same to you. Cheers.

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    Lol, I told you that referee Giuseppe Quartarone was a horrible choice. What were they thinking? SMH

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    Maybe I have to watch the fight again. What exactly are you referring to?

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    Well, a lot of people on the forum board are voicing their displeasure with Giuseppe. Dillian Whyte said he was awful, the Showtime commentators and a whole lot of folks on the forum.

    He was horrible actually. For an international neutrel referee they definitely should have chose someone like Luis Pabon, he's a good referee and gets called upon for big fights from time to time internationally.
    I understand there's talk about it. What I'm asking is, what specific problems did YOU have with the ref. Just curious, that's all.

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    • True That
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      #32
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      I do use Box Rec and I did look him up and I still never heard of him. I know international referees. Not all, but a lot of them. Seems like most on here don't know this guy or ever heard of him either, so don't come at me with that.
      They should have used international referee Luis Pabon for a fight like this not this Giuseppe Quartarone.

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      Actually, they should use a qualified and neutral ref. Quartarone is both of those.

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      I disagree, they need a referee with high profile big fight experience.

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      Neutral and qualified, and both camps are fine with him. Both know who he is. You're sounding more like a casual every time. Relax and enjoy the fight. Geez, chill out.

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      No sorry son, I'm pretty sure I'm more astute and knowledgeable about the sweet science than you are. I'm far from a casual.

      I'm not the only one who doesn't recognize this dude as a "big" fight referee either, True That. Anyway it is what it is and I will enjoy the fight Trust.

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      I'm 64 now, and have kept up with the sport since I was about 8. So maybe you're taking on quite a stretch. What I said was you were sounding like a casual. If both camps are fine with the guy as being qualified and neutral, I'm fine as well. Anyway, we have a great fight coming in less than 2 weeks. I'm fired up and ready to roll. Hope you enjoy it as well.

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      Absolutely, we definitely have a great fight next Saturday. I've accumulated my sick hours at work this month to use on Saturday March 31st since that fight live for me will be at 3pm or so. Enjoy the fight sir.

      Same to you. Cheers.

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      Lol, I told you that referee Giuseppe Quartarone was a horrible choice. What were they thinking? SMH

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      Maybe I have to watch the fight again. What exactly are you referring to?



      I understand there's talk about it. What I'm asking is, what specific problems did YOU have with the ref. Just curious, that's all.



      I explained that already. Giuseppe Quartarone was not an experienced enough referee for a big fight like that. Let alone championship fights. He had only 4 world championship bouts prior to last Saturday. Most everyone else said the same when he was announced as the referee for the fight.

      A neutral referee is fine for both teams, it should have been a more experienced referee like Luis Pabon. That's all I was saying.

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      • PunchyPotorff
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        #33
        Originally posted by True That
        I explained that already. Giuseppe Quartarone was not an experienced enough referee for a big fight like that. Let alone championship fights. He had only 4 world championship bouts prior to last Saturday. Most everyone else said the same when he was announced as the referee for the fight.

        A neutral referee is fine for both teams, it should have been a more experienced referee like Luis Pabon. That's all I was saying.
        You don't understand what I'm asking. Things like, he did a Joe Cortez (too much interference with the action), he didn't call low blows, he stopped a fight too early... that's reasons. That's all I was getting at. I thought he did an okay job, definitely not great. He was too involved at times. Made himself too much of a part of the fight by getting in there between the fighters too much. But I've seen that same b.s. from much more experienced refs too.

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          #34
          Originally posted by soul_survivor
          Seen this ref a few times, he's pretty good but I can't remember if he can speak English or not. I'm not big on refs who cant speak the language of the guys in the ring, it leads to problems, most famously in Benn v Mc.

          Anyway, better than Smoger or Cortez.
          Hes not even better than Terry ' let me carry you back to your corner' O'Connor and the worst refferee in the entire sport Ian ' i am the weferwee' John lewis

          One of the worst referees i have ever seen in my life.

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            #35
            Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
            You don't understand what I'm asking. Things like, he did a Joe Cortez (too much interference with the action), he didn't call low blows, he stopped a fight too early... that's reasons. That's all I was getting at. I thought he did an okay job, definitely not great. He was too involved at times. Made himself too much of a part of the fight by getting in there between the fighters too much. But I've seen that same b.s. from much more experienced refs too.

            He interrupted the fight way too much. At various moments when Joshua and Parker were getting ready to fight inside he jumped in way too quick and too many times. He was awkward in his refereeing and approach. He wasn't in tune with the fight and made himself a part of the fight way too much. He brought way too much attention to himself in a bad way for a fight that was about Joshua and Parker.

            U.S. media, British media, U.S. fighters, U.K. fighters, New Zealand bashed the referee for a poor, poor job. Rightfully so.

            Lesson learned, next time I'm sure they will choose a big fight experienced referee.

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              #36
              Originally posted by mlac
              Hes not even better than Terry ' let me carry you back to your corner' O'Connor and the worst refferee in the entire sport Ian ' i am the weferwee' John lewis

              One of the worst referees i have ever seen in my life.
              No one beats Smogers performance in Hopkins v Murat. That was the single most disgraceful refereeing performance in the history of the sport.

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                #37
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                You don't understand what I'm asking. Things like, he did a Joe Cortez (too much interference with the action), he didn't call low blows, he stopped a fight too early... that's reasons. That's all I was getting at. I thought he did an okay job, definitely not great. He was too involved at times. Made himself too much of a part of the fight by getting in there between the fighters too much. But I've seen that same b.s. from much more experienced refs too.

                Originally posted by True That
                He interrupted the fight way too much. At various moments when Joshua and Parker were getting ready to fight inside he jumped in way too quick and too many times. He was awkward in his refereeing and approach. He wasn't in tune with the fight and made himself a part of the fight way too much. He brought way too much attention to himself in a bad way for a fight that was about Joshua and Parker.

                U.S. media, British media, U.S. fighters, U.K. fighters, New Zealand bashed the referee for a poor, poor job. Rightfully so.

                Lesson learned, next time I'm sure they will choose a big fight experienced referee.
                Looks like we are close in agreement. I still say there are a bunch of more well known refs who have done the same shiii.

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                  #38
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                  You don't understand what I'm asking. Things like, he did a Joe Cortez (too much interference with the action), he didn't call low blows, he stopped a fight too early... that's reasons. That's all I was getting at. I thought he did an okay job, definitely not great. He was too involved at times. Made himself too much of a part of the fight by getting in there between the fighters too much. But I've seen that same b.s. from much more experienced refs too.



                  Looks like we are close in agreement. I still say there are a bunch of more well known refs who have done the same shiii.
                  Sure, I agree, but more than not the experienced big fight refs do a better job than not doing a better job. That's why they are always in the big fights.

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                    #39
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                    You don't understand what I'm asking. Things like, he did a Joe Cortez (too much interference with the action), he didn't call low blows, he stopped a fight too early... that's reasons. That's all I was getting at. I thought he did an okay job, definitely not great. He was too involved at times. Made himself too much of a part of the fight by getting in there between the fighters too much. But I've seen that same b.s. from much more experienced refs too.



                    Looks like we are close in agreement. I still say there are a bunch of more well known refs who have done the same shiii.

                    Originally posted by True That
                    Sure, I agree, but more than not the experienced big fight refs do a better job than not doing a better job. That's why they are always in the big fights.
                    I know the feeling of being frustrated while watching a fight. I was screaming at the TV when Joe 'I'm Bought And Paid For' Cortez definitely helped Floydie vs Hatton. And there were several more with Cortez like that. And Laurence Cole has shown the only reason he gets big fights was his Pop was head of the TX A.C. for years. And who can forget Russell Mora in Mares/Agbeko I? So yeah, we fans have reason to complain about refs and judges a lot.

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                      #40
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                      You don't understand what I'm asking. Things like, he did a Joe Cortez (too much interference with the action), he didn't call low blows, he stopped a fight too early... that's reasons. That's all I was getting at. I thought he did an okay job, definitely not great. He was too involved at times. Made himself too much of a part of the fight by getting in there between the fighters too much. But I've seen that same b.s. from much more experienced refs too.



                      Looks like we are close in agreement. I still say there are a bunch of more well known refs who have done the same shiii.



                      I know the feeling of being frustrated while watching a fight. I was screaming at the TV when Joe 'I'm Bought And Paid For' Cortez definitely helped Floydie vs Hatton. And there were several more with Cortez like that. And Laurence Cole has shown the only reason he gets big fights was his Pop was head of the TX A.C. for years. And who can forget Russell Mora in Mares/Agbeko I? So yeah, we fans have reason to complain about refs and judges a lot.



                      Joe Cortez used to be a good referee then he fell off. I'm glad he retired. Laurence Cole has always been horrid.


                      Most of the fights last night were refereed well. Lol, I barely noticed the referees last night. I don't like referee Robert Byrd and his wife Adalaide Byrd.

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