Anthony Joshua lacks the punching power required to hurt / KO / drop Deontay Wilder

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  • Laligalaliga
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    #51
    Originally posted by No punch power
    Luis Ortiz is!

    Recent performances matter. Not ancient performances. Wilder's chin is NOW significantly better than before, to the point where Joshua will stand almost no chance at knocking out Wilder now.

    Wilder's chin > Joshua's chin

    Wilder's chin > Joshua's punching power

    Wilder punching power > Joshua's punching power

    Wilder's punching power > Joshua's chin


    In every which way you look at it, this is a lopsided mismatch in favour of Deontay Wihilder. Anthony Joshua stands almost no chance at winning.
    *****, have you trained any body before? You sound like a mathematics teacher solving an equation.

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    • Laligalaliga
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      #52
      Originally posted by No punch power
      You haven't answered my question yet.

      Are we seriously accept the idea that Alexander Povetkin is a 'MONSTROUS' puncher whilst Carlos Takam has a GRANITE chin now?

      Isn't Anthony joshua SIGNIFICANTLY bigger in size compared to Alexander Povetkin and Carlos Takam? Isn't Anthony Joshua SIGNIFICANTLY taller, heavier, rangier with a longer reach and more muscular than Alexander Povetkin and Carlos Takam with much bigger and more packs in his abdomen?

      So why couldn't the much bigger sized Anthony Joshua knock Carlos Takam out unconscious more brutally when the MUCH smaller Alexander Povetkin managed to knock this same Carlos TAkam out unconscious without even having any size advantage?

      Where was Anthony Joshua's mythical power? Or is it more down to Joshua not being that powerful to begin with?

      If Carlos Takam really had a granite chin, then why was Povetkin able to knock Takam out unconscious whilst Anthony Joshua couldn't? Or is it down to the fact that the much smaller, pudgier, fatter and overweight Povetkin being a much more powerful puncher than the much bigger and muscular Anthony Joshua? HOW EMBARRASSING!
      You are a poor analyst, every fight and opponent has it game plan.
      Fighter A can KO fighter B in 10 rounds while fighter C KO that same fighter B in 2 rounds.
      Your sense of analysis is way too poor.

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      • STREET CLEANER
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        #53
        AJ is fast and sharp, counters and uses combinations. Even if his power is over-rated the way he fights he will continue to KO fighters. Then you have his physical size, heavy and hard to get to.

        Canelo's power is over-rated but both fighters a similar when hurting their opponents.

        And lets not forget that once hurt they both go for the kill

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        • alexguiness
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          #54
          I cant take this post seriously, the ONLY thing Joshua has is power lol.

          He ain't exactly slick doe...

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          • Boksfan
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            #55
            Originally posted by No punch power
            Anthony Joshua's bouts against Carlos Takam and Wladimir Klitshko proves this.

            Anthony Joshua landed everything but the kitchen sink on a glass chinned suspect in Carlos Takam for 10 rounds and didn't even come close to knocking him out cleanly. Despite the fact that Carlos Takam is a 6 foot 1 midget that can barely crack an egg and has a glass / china chin / jaw.

            This same Carlos Takam was knocked out cold by a 6 foot 1, feather fisted, pudgy, chubby, fat and an overweight blown up light heavyweight in Alexander Povetkin who can barely crack an egg and has the punching power of a little sissy.

            Yet. Anthony Joshua who is much bigger than midgets like Povetkin and Takam in size. Who is a super heavyweight unlike them who are blown up cruiser/light heavyweights. Is far taller, has a much longer reach, has much bigger muscles in his body and has much more packs in his stomach which are also bigger in size. Yet, Joshua still couldn't use his bigger size, bigger muscles, taller height, longer reach, more and bigger stomach packs to KO Carlos Takam cleanly / unconscious when the much smaller Povetkin managed it. That is beyond contempt and is disgraceful, shameful, embarrassing, humiliating and pathetic.

            Even against Wladimir Klitschko, a guy who was stopped by Corrie Sanders in 2 rounds early on in his career. Anthony Joshua faced the oldest version of Wladimir Klitschko coming off a 2 year layoff but still couldn't keep the glass / china jawed / chinned Wladimir Klitschko down for the 10 count and only managed the stoppage because the 41 year old man was exhausted due to old age. If Joshua was as powerful as many seem to think and claim, he would've put Wlad to sleep but he couldn't. Despite being one of Wlad's biggest and most muscular opponents and despite facing the oldest and most inactive version of Wlad.

            Anthony Joshua = has 0 concussive power. Can't crack an egg with his best punches and is a feather fist. Joshua isn't a REAL KO artist like Deontay Wilder is.

            Luis Ortiz (who probably hits harder than Anthony Joshua) landed everything but the kitchen sink on Deontay Wilder with all his life's worth and with maximum power multiple times for multiple rounds but couldn't even come close to dropping, never mind stopping or knocking out the iron / granite chinned Deontay Wilder who has one of the best chins in the heavyweight division today, in all of boxing today and is on the verge of cementing his chin as one of the greatest in the history of the sport of boxing.

            Just a few right hands from Deontay Wilder is all it took for Luis Ortiz to get brutalized and knocked out but multiple of Ortiz's most powerful punches for multiple rounds were bouncing off Wilder's body with almost no effect and they weren't even close to dropping, never mind stopping or knocking out Wilder.

            Anthony Joshua poses 0 knock-out threat to Deontay Wilder. I don't even think Joshua stands a puncher's chance at beating Wilder either. In fact, to put it bluntly, Joshua doesn't even pose any threat to Deontay Wilder in anyway whatsoever. In other words, this is a lopsided mismatch in favour of Deontay Wilder.

            Anthony Joshua isn't facing a glass / china chinned / jawed blown up light heavyweight 6 foot 1 midget in Carlos Takam. Nor is he facing an old, 41 year old, inactive Wladimir Klitschko coming off a 2 year lay off with stamina / cardio problems at an old age.

            Deontay Wilder is ASTRONOMICALLY fitter with better stamina, has ASTRONOMICALLY greater concussive knock out power, is ASTRONOMICALLY more athletic overall and has an ASTRONOMICALLY better chin.

            Anthony Joshua stands no chance whatsoever!
            Nuthuggers are nuthuggers

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            • bowlingkid09
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              #56
              Originally posted by No punch power
              You haven't answered my question yet.

              Are we seriously accept the idea that Alexander Povetkin is a 'MONSTROUS' puncher whilst Carlos Takam has a GRANITE chin now?

              Isn't Anthony joshua SIGNIFICANTLY bigger in size compared to Alexander Povetkin and Carlos Takam? Isn't Anthony Joshua SIGNIFICANTLY taller, heavier, rangier with a longer reach and more muscular than Alexander Povetkin and Carlos Takam with much bigger and more packs in his abdomen?

              So why couldn't the much bigger sized Anthony Joshua knock Carlos Takam out unconscious more brutally when the MUCH smaller Alexander Povetkin managed to knock this same Carlos TAkam out unconscious without even having any size advantage?

              Where was Anthony Joshua's mythical power? Or is it more down to Joshua not being that powerful to begin with?

              If Carlos Takam really had a granite chin, then why was Povetkin able to knock Takam out unconscious whilst Anthony Joshua couldn't? Or is it down to the fact that the much smaller, pudgier, fatter and overweight Povetkin being a much more powerful puncher than the much bigger and muscular Anthony Joshua? HOW EMBARRASSING!
              Either you are trolling or you a straight ****ing idiot. Where do I start? First of all, sleeping a fighter with one punch has far more do to with timing and placement than sheer power. Povetkin landed as perfectly placed of a left hook on Takam as you possibly can. That shot would have knocked out just about anybody. Takam does have a pretty good chin. Parker's shots couldn't do **** to Takam.

              Wilder has an awkward rhythm plus he throw his whole damn body into his shots. With perfect placement and timing, he is going to put guys to sleep (only a small few were actually rendered completely unconscious by the way). Joshua does not load up on his shots like Wilder plus he does not have that strange style that Wilder has. He makes contact and breaks you down. By the way, Joshua has laid out a few opponents in fairly brutal fashion as well.

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              • No punch power
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                #57
                Originally posted by bowlingkid09
                Either you are trolling or you a straight ****ing idiot. Where do I start? First of all, sleeping a fighter with one punch has far more do to with timing and placement than sheer power. Povetkin landed as perfectly placed of a left hook on Takam as you possibly can. That shot would have knocked out just about anybody. Takam does have a pretty good chin. Parker's shots couldn't do **** to Takam.

                Wilder has an awkward rhythm plus he throw his whole damn body into his shots. With perfect placement and timing, he is going to put guys to sleep (only a small few were actually rendered completely unconscious by the way). Joshua does not load up on his shots like Wilder plus he does not have that strange style that Wilder has. He makes contact and breaks you down. By the way, Joshua has laid out a few opponents in fairly brutal fashion as well.
                I'm sorry! But this is Anthony Joshua:



                Tall, huge and a muscular specimen.

                And this is Alexander Povetkin:



                Short, Chubby, Pudgy and an overweight fat pudding


                There should be 0 excuse for Anthony Joshua failing to KO an opponent unconscious more brutally and quicker when another boxer who is far shorter, far smaller in size, far less muscular and far fatter managed it.

                Povetkin didn't even have a size advantage over Takam but still managed to KO Takam unconscious who was the same size as him.

                Meanwhile, Anthony Joshua was SIGNIFICANTLY bigger in size compared to Carlos Takam but still failed to KO Takam unconscious.

                Why couldn't the bigger sized, more muscular, taller, heavier and the longer reached specimen in Anthony Joshua KO Carlos Takam more brutally and quickly than the smaller sized, shorter, fatter, chubbier, shorter and less Muscular Alexander Povetkin? This makes Joshua look embarrassing, shameful and pathetic!

                What would happen if a 30 year old adult male failed to KO a teenager but his 5 year old son managed it? How would that make the 30 year old adult male look? Embarrassing, shameful, disgraceful, humiliating and pathetic, wouldn't it?

                This is the same scenario here! Povetkin with his astronomically smaller sized body managed to brutally KO Takam unconscious whilst Joshua with his much bigger sized body failed. No EXCUSES!

                Considering how much bigger and muscular Joshua is, he shouldn't even need to land any 'PERFECT' punches in order to KO much smaller opponents like Takam and Povetkin brutally and concussively.

                If Povetkin vs Joshua happens, I expect Joshua to totally obliterate Povetkin and knock him out unconscious in just a few rounds, if not in 1 round. If he can't, then it would only reinforce how GROSSLY OVERRATED and PATHETIC Joshua's sissy punching power is.

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                • No punch power
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Boksfan
                  Nuthuggers are nuthuggers
                  No, I'm a 'power' hugger because Deontay Wilder ACTUALLY and FACTUALLY has proper KO and concussive power.

                  Meanwhile, what does AJ have other than good for nothing muscles? Why doesn't he KO opponents more brutally and concussively, in a more frequent basis when he is much more muscular than the likes of Deontay Wilder and Alexander Povetkin? Because AJ is a feather fist who has the punching power of a little sissy and a pssy. He can only dream of knocking opponents out unconscious and cleanly like how Deontay Wilder does. And maybe that hurts your feelings because your hero can't crack an egg and only requires BS premature stoppages from his boyfriend referees.

                  Anthony Joshua couldn't even phase Deontay Wilder, even with his best / most powerful punches. Because he lacks the power to overcome Wilder's GRANITE chin.

                  What happens when AJ gets caught by a more powerful right hand than Wladimir Klitschko's or any other punch he has ever taken? AJ gets put into a coma and forgets his name, fame, where he came from and who he even is.

                  Time is nearly running up my friend!

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                  • No punch power
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                    You are a poor analyst, every fight and opponent has it game plan.
                    Fighter A can KO fighter B in 10 rounds while fighter C KO that same fighter B in 2 rounds.
                    Your sense of analysis is way too poor.
                    Anthony Joshua has no excuses for being unable to KO an opponent (Carlos Takam) that was already previously KO'ed by a much smaller sized, much shorter, much less muscular, much lighter and a much fatter Alexander Povetkin who is really a blown up cruiser weight and a feather fist.

                    Why couldn't Anthony Joshua use his bigger size, bigger and more muscles, more reach and more height to KO Carlos Takam more brutally and quickly than Alexander Povetkin did? That's because Anthony Joshua is GROSSLY OVERRATED who has almost 0 concussive knockout power.

                    *****, have you trained any body before? You sound like a mathematics teacher solving an equation.
                    Yes, and yes you're correct. I'm a mathematician indeed. Logic is the way to go!

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Mindgames
                      Yes it is very embarrassing, because I didnt say Takam had a granite chin. You said he had a glass chin, that's the embarrassing part. I didn't say Povetkin was a super puncher, but you said he was a feather fist. That's the problem, you made the claims and want me to explain them. You claimed both guys were blown up from lighter weights. Evidence please. You said Wilder had a granite chin, I said Sconiers, and you said nothing. So you made the claims, you give the answers. Example. Levi Bilups took Lennox Lewis the full route, was stopped in 4 by Micheal Moorer. Was Lewis a feather fist. Was Moorer better or more powerful? Was Bilups a light heavyweight? See?
                      Take a look at the size of Alexander Povetkin and Carlos Takam, compared to Anthony Joshua or the Klitschkos. And that alone should tell you that Povetkin and Takam don't even belong in the same weight division as the likes of Anthony Joshua or the Klitschkos, any more than Vasyl Lomachenko and Terence Crawford do.

                      In fact, compare Anthony Joshua vs Wladimir Klitschko to Anthony Joshua vs Carlos Takam.

                      In the former, it was a competitive fight because both Wladimir Klitschko and Anthony Joshua were the same size that belonged in the same weight division together and it therefore was close to a 50/50 match up.

                      Meanwhile, the latter was a lopsided mismatched match up because Anthony Joshua was SIGNIFICANTLY bigger than Carlos Takam in size, to the point where Takam didn't even belong in the same weight division, never mind the same ring with Joshua.

                      There are super heavyweights like Anthony Joshua and Klitschko. And then there are small heavyweights / blown up cruiser weights / light heavyweights like Alexander Povetkin, Carlos Takam and David Haye. If you can't see the difference between the two groups and understand why they should belong in two different weight divisions after this explanation, then I can't really help you.

                      Just because there doesn't exist an extra weight division to separate small heavyweights and super heavyweights, doesn't mean that such a weight division shouldn't exist or that small heavyweights shouldn't be allowed to fight super heavyweights or that small heavyweights vs super heavyweights isn't mismatches.

                      Carlos Takam vs Anthony Joshua is as big, if not a bigger mismatch than Vasy Lomachenko vs Errol Spence Jr or Terence Crawford in terms of size. But we don't often complain when small heavyweights are mismatched against super heavyweights but do complain when boxers from lower weight divisions are mismatched in size. Do you spot the hypocrisy?

                      If Nicholas Walters was to brutally KO Vasyl Lomachenko unconscious in 10 rounds without any size, height, reach or weight advantage at 130 pounds. And then suppose Vasyl Lomachenko faced Terence Crawford or Errol Spence Jr 3 years later with a 15 pounds weight disadvantage and if Crawford or Spence couldn't even come close to knocking Vasyl Lomachenko out unconscious after 10 rounds of boxing like how Nicholas Walters did. Then what would that make Crawford and Errol Spence Jr? What would that make of their punching power and boxing abilities? When a much smaller sized, lighter, less rangier and less muscular sized Nicholas Walters managed to brutally knock Lomachenko out unconscious whilst they couldn't with a significant size, muscle size, height, weight and reach advantage?

                      I'll tell you what! It'd be embarrassing, shameful, disgraceful, humiliating and pathetic. To the point where they should be considering suicide and be questioning their self worth / value as human beings

                      What excuse does Anthony Joshua have of being unable to knock Carlos Takam out unconscious, when the much smaller sized, less muscular, less taller and less rangier Povetkin managed it already a few years ago?

                      I'm sorry, but you can't blame me for being MASSIVELY critical of Anthony Joshua for this. He bought it upon himself.

                      This is Anthony Joshua:



                      Tall, huge and a muscular specimen.

                      Meanwhile, this is Alexander Povetkin:



                      Short, Chubby, Pudgy and an overweight fat pudding


                      If you still can't understand the point I'm making, then I really can't help you

                      It's like if a 30 year old adult failed to KO a teenager but his 5 year old son managed to. How embarrassing would that be for this 30 year old adult?

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