Youtuber thinks Crawford should leave Top Rank & Bob Arum

[Beercules]

Crawford has done well with top rank.
He's been active, gotten good paychecks and important fights that made him number 1 p4p.
What else does he want?
Going with Al won't guarantee anything. Just look at how lo g his fighters sit out.

^^^^^ this right here

Hate Bob all you want, but he has been in the game long and knows how to promote.

[The Big Dunn]

There is no guarantee he would get those fights with Al.
More likely he'll be inactive as many pbc fighters are. With TR he's fighting at least twice sometimes 3 times a year. Getting good fights.

Crawford is now at 147 and is projecting north. The best fighters at 147/154 are all with haymon. So will he still be able to get good fights?

PBC has stalled fighters the last couple years. This year they have already announced a string of fights for the 1st quarter of the year and seem to have plans for the 2nd part of the year for all big names.

I 'm not saying he even has to sign with Haymon. Do what Mikey did, go to schaeffer.

I just don't think its good for the sport if Crawford can't get the fights we want to see because of politics.

[JJRod]

Crawford is now at 147 and is projecting north. The best fighters at 147/154 are all with haymon. So will he still be able to get good fights?

PBC has stalled fighters the last couple years. This year they have already announced a string of fights for the 1st quarter of the year and seem to have plans for the 2nd part of the year for all big names.

I 'm not saying he even has to sign with Haymon. Do what Mikey did, go to schaeffer.

I just don't think its good for the sport if Crawford can't get the fights we want to see because of politics.

I don't think you jump ship when things are going well for you. Nothing guarantees that leaving TR would get him any fight against the top guys at 54. He'll what if he loses his next fight?
What if some of the guys at 54 sign somewhere else? What if pbc folds?

[The Big Dunn]

I don't think you jump ship when things are going well for you. Nothing guarantees that leaving TR would get him any fight against the top guys at 54. He'll what if he loses his next fight?
What if some of the guys at 54 sign somewhere else? What if pbc folds?

I agree with you regarding jumping ship. That said, you need to take an honest look at the landscape.

If you are Crawford and his manager, leaving TR isn't done out of spite. I wouldn't suggest it now. once you beat Horn, if TR wont give you fights with Manny or Loma, what is the incentive to stay when all the other big money fights are Spence, Thurman, Porter, Broner, Hurd, Charlo?

yes he could lose but you expect more risk as you go up in weight and fight the top guys.

If TR signs the top guys then obviously he should stay. If PBC folded all of those guys are free agents. Crawford wouldn't need Arum to make fights in Nebraska.

[Dr.Cool]

Arum has bought the boxing media to proclaim he is a p4p fighter. But he is still completely unknown outside of Omaha. This is because he fights nobody.

Crawford isn't going to leave TR. Then he would have no excuse to not fight the best. Supposedly p4p, yet moves up as soon as Mikey comes up and Prograis gets his first big fight. And yet, he still isn't facing a top 5 ww. Guys 7 pounds bigger but with the same skills as Postol or Indongo aren't even top 10 wws. Bud don't want anything to do with any elite opponent. He is ducking the entire welterweight division, after Mikey scared him out of 140.

Bud is with TR so he never has to take any chances. If Broner followed the same strategy he would still be a p4p fighter.

Arum can buy journalists to put you in p4p lists and the journalists can convince idiots that its true, but none of that matters to anyone outside of Omaha who doesn't get on sites like this everyday. But again, its not about being known, making the most $$ possible, or daring to be great. Its about not taking any chances. None. He is scared to death. Dude was 160 pounds fighting at 140!!! Beating guys much smaller than you, who aren't A level fighters to begin with is doing what any halfway good boxer should do.

[JJRod]

I agree with you regarding jumping ship. That said, you need to take an honest look at the landscape.

If you are Crawford and his manager, leaving TR isn't done out of spite. I wouldn't suggest it now. once you beat Horn, if TR wont give you fights with Manny or Loma, what is the incentive to stay when all the other big money fights are Spence, Thurman, Porter, Broner, Hurd, Charlo?

yes he could lose but you expect more risk as you go up in weight and fight the top guys.

If TR signs the top guys then obviously he should stay. If PBC folded all of those guys are free agents. Crawford wouldn't need Arum to make fights in Nebraska.

I'm sure buds manager also would take note that Bob Arum can't guarantee Pac or Loma if both those guys aren't willing. Pac is on his way out and Loma is 2 divisions down with many great fights before Bud.
Crawford however is p4p the best fighter right now. Getting great pays without Pac or Loma. It should be the other guys wanting to fight him.

[Curt Henning]

Crawford should leave but this isn't the reason. Just look at how Pacquiao is trapped in a lifetime contract.

pac did that to himself....he could have done things differently....but he was too loyal and happy getting checks he never dreamed of.....and koncz helped arum keep him around

[JJRod]

Arum has bought the boxing media to proclaim he is a p4p fighter. But he is still completely unknown outside of Omaha. This is because he fights nobody.

Crawford isn't going to leave TR. Then he would have no excuse to not fight the best. Supposedly p4p, yet moves up as soon as Mikey comes up and Prograis gets his first big fight. And yet, he still isn't facing a top 5 ww. Guys 7 pounds bigger but with the same skills as Postol or Indongo aren't even top 10 wws. Bud don't want anything to do with any elite opponent. He is ducking the entire welterweight division, after Mikey scared him out of 140.

Bud is with TR so he never has to take any chances. If Broner followed the same strategy he would still be a p4p fighter.

Arum can buy journalists to put you in p4p lists and the journalists can convince idiots that its true, but none of that matters to anyone outside of Omaha who doesn't get on sites like this everyday. But again, its not about being known, making the most $$ possible, or daring to be great. Its about not taking any chances. None. He is scared to death. Dude was 160 pounds fighting at 140!!! Beating guys much smaller than you, who aren't A level fighters to begin with is doing what any halfway good boxer should do.

This is ridiculous meaningless dribble.

[The Big Dunn]

I'm sure buds manager also would take note that Bob Arum can't guarantee Pac or Loma if both those guys aren't willing. Pac is on his way out and Loma is 2 divisions down with many great fights before Bud.
Crawford however is p4p the best fighter right now. Getting great pays without Pac or Loma. It should be the other guys wanting to fight him.

Define "great" paydays? What if another promoter can get him more?

He just moved to 147, why would WW want to fight a JWW?

Well those are the 2 money fights for Crawford at TR. Otherwise its slim pickings.

You seem to be purposely ignoring the landscape. Why should Crawford stay and fight Horn level guys when fights with Haymon WW would bring more because they are the best in the division?

I just want to see the best fights get made.

[IMDAZED]

Which is why he needs to either leave or wait out Bob until he dies and the son in law takes over.

Crawford is going to end up at 154. All the best guys at 147 and 154 are either with Haymon or guys that work closely with Haymon.

Crawford already has the built in crowds in Nebraska so he can fight there 1 or 2 times a year. Then the one big fight in Vegas or NYC.

He can get a Dibella to handle the groundwork.

Crawford might be willing to do that, but I don't know if his management is.