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Originally posted by BucaRican View PostWell I man up and can say I was wrong. It's sad cuz the kid does have the talent.
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Originally posted by Catrin View PostAnd i respect that!
Verdejo needs a fresh start....
New coach
No friends
New location...
Maybe even new promoter
I have said this since before his accident. He was already showing signs of being undisciplined.
He was getting taken the distance with nobody's. He would show flashes early of his Olympic self, then start relying on heavy punches, then gas, and make the fights closer then they had to be.
First thing I said was get rid of his trainer, make a big change, move from PR where everyone was hyping him to be the next Tito. Somewhere like Big Bear where he could find his self, and learn to not load up and waste all of his stamina.
Bob Arum was the issue early by putting the guy in with tomato cans trying to build him up, that failed because we could never see the stamina issues. Now they are evident. He needs to find the balance, but he is technically solid as they come. Just lazy, full of stamina issues, and concentration issues.
Sucks because I have talked with the kid on two separate occasions and he is super humble.
I am gonna have to eat dog **** for years because I still believe in the kid. But if he does not make a change he will be more of Juanma than what he was touted to be.
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Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View PostI didn’t see greatness in Felix, but he is talented. It’s impossible to know for sure how good someone really is until they’re tested. We’ve reached a point in boxing where fans think that first loss is the end of the world. It’s not. This kid can come back better than ever. How good he really is remains to be seen. I’m not saying Verdejo will be great. I’m saying we really don’t know his true potential yet. He had a lot of challenges in recent times, injuries and time off. It’s not surprising his first loss came at this moment. It’ll be interesting to see what this setback does for Felix. Will he fold, or will he rise to the challenge? We’ll know soon enough.
But like you said it tough to see until they are tested. This blame goes solely on Bob Arum. He waited to long to start challenging the kid:
His 7th fight- Went the distance with a nobody
His 9th fight- Went the distance with another nobody
Right there is were bob should have put him in with a puncher, and someone that could go the distance. This may have put the kid in a mentality of "ohhh I am not all that they are saying, I need to work". But Bob Kept giving him tomato cans. Cotto had 9 fights before they put him in with a true test, and was fighting for a title on his 14th fight. Very stark difference than that of Verdejo.
But at the end of the day its up to the kid to show up. ZEROEXCUSES.
Now is what we see what his is made of. If I am Verdejo I ask Bob for an rematch right away, find a new trainer and location, and get to work focused. Then we will see.
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Originally posted by BucaRican View PostI saw greatness, he had a blend of great technical balance with speed.
But like you said it tough to see until they are tested. This blame goes solely on Bob Arum. He waited to long to start challenging the kid:
His 7th fight- Went the distance with a nobody
His 9th fight- Went the distance with another nobody
Right there is were bob should have put him in with a puncher, and someone that could go the distance. This may have put the kid in a mentality of "ohhh I am not all that they are saying, I need to work". But Bob Kept giving him tomato cans. Cotto had 9 fights before they put him in with a true test, and was fighting for a title on his 14th fight. Very stark difference than that of Verdejo.
But at the end of the day its up to the kid to show up. ZEROEXCUSES.
Now is what we see what his is made of. If I am Verdejo I ask Bob for an rematch right away, find a new trainer and location, and get to work focused. Then we will see.
But I do agree Verdejo should rematch Lozada ASAP. It would be major motivation to avenge his first loss. Then we would have a better idea what Felix is made of. Do or die.
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Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View PostI don’t completely disagree with what you’re saying. I think you might have a point. But not everyone is the same. Not everyone can be a star. Cotto is Cotto. Maybe Felix would’ve risen to the challenge, maybe not. If he didn’t, we'd probably be talking about how Arum brought him up too fast. Lol
But I do agree Verdejo should rematch Lozada ASAP. It would be major motivation to avenge his first loss. Then we would have a better idea what Felix is made of. Do or die.
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Originally posted by BucaRican View PostIt will be a make or break, if he loses he may just not be able to get away from that loss ever. If he wins they're will probably be another rematch.
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