Mikey Garcia vs. Manny Pacquiao at 140

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  • Boxing Goat
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    #31
    Originally posted by TheBigLug
    Pac is nearly 40, shot and fighting due to tax problems...
    I agree that he's old, but he's not shot in terms of normal fighters. He would still make a good fight with Mikey

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    • WesternChamp
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      #32
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
      Go and rewatch the fight, caus you’re either being bias or ignorant.
      Mikey clearly outclassed Broner he essentially won every round
      FFS😂😂😂 you don’t have to knock the guy out to dominate a fight. Mikey was in control of that fight and in the ascendancy from first to last bell. That’s dominating a fight.
      bro, i said be beat broner, what more do you want? he clearly beat broner but he wasnt toying with broner, he was still playing it safe.

      that's what i was trying to get thru to you. when you use words like dominate, i tend to think of fights where one guy gets beaten to a bloody pulp.

      what mikey did against broner, i just find it hard for him to beat manny by doing just that. broner was a standing target and even then garcia didnt really put a beating on him, pac aint gonna be a standing target.

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        #33
        Originally posted by WesternChamp
        bro, i said be beat broner, what more do you want? he clearly beat broner but he wasnt toying with broner, he was still playing it safe.

        that's what i was trying to get thru to you. when you use words like dominate, i tend to think of fights where one guy gets beaten to a bloody pulp.

        what mikey did against broner, i just find it hard for him to beat manny by doing just that. broner was a standing target and even then garcia didnt really put a beating on him, pac aint gonna be a standing target.
        He dominated (i.e controlled the fight from start to finish, whilst winning nearly every round) the fight against Broner and comfortably beat a 140lb champion in Lipinets. But according to you “hasn’t done **** at 140”.🤣🤣
        As I said you are being bias or ignorant.

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          #34
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
          I understand they are different stylistically but Mikey is far superior to Horn, Mikey can also box on both the front and back foot and has a lot of dimensions to his game.
          The Pac that fought Bradley(who was pretty shopworn tbh) is way further gone now, the Pac that fought Bradley beats Horn easily. The referee, judges etc are all just excuses, Pac lost to a guy he should easily have dealt with. Pac is shot, regardless of whether people delude themselves into believing he was “robbed”, the fact that he struggled with a guy he would’ve destroyed in his prime proves how far gone he is. I’m a Pac fan myself but it’s clearly not there anymore, he should retire cause he has no business fighting elite fighters like Mikey anymore.
          Dude, Horn with a good referee in there controlling the action gets beaten post to pillar by even this version of Pacquiao. Sorry but headbutting your way into exchanges would not have been tolerated here. He wasn't even warned about it.

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            #35
            I think it's a close fight but Mikey is prime and very sharp now. Pacquiao is very old and way past prime so I give Garcia a slight edge. I think a prime Pacquiao would KO Garcia without that much trouble. Garcia is a very good champion but I don't think he is or ever will be the equal of Pacquiao in his prime.

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              #36
              back in the day when Pac was on his power pellets at 140 he would have buzzsawed Garcia and stopped him within 9 rounds

              today he'd probably get his ass beat

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                #37
                Originally posted by turnedup
                Dude, Horn with a good referee in there controlling the action gets beaten post to pillar by even this version of Pacquiao. Sorry but headbutting your way into exchanges would not have been tolerated here. He wasn't even warned about it.
                He outworked and outhustled Pac; Horn was badly gassed and hurt in the 8th or 9th and Pac still couldn’t finish him.
                As someone who was genuinely rooting for Pac on the night, I don’t really have a problem with how Horn fought, he was inferior skills wise so made it physical and tried to bully Pac, where there a few head clashes? Yes, but they weren’t all intentional, and that’s to be expected when you have a southpaw and orthodox who both like to come forward, the exact same happened in SSR vs Gonzalez 1.
                For me what Horn did was no different to what Shawn Porter usually does regularly.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                  He outworked and outhustled Pac; Horn was badly gassed and hurt in the 8th or 9th and Pac still couldn’t finish him.
                  As someone who was genuinely rooting for Pac on the night, I don’t really have a problem with how Horn fought, he was inferior skills wise so made it physical and tried to bully Pac, where there a few head clashes? Yes, but they weren’t all intentional, and that’s to be expected when you have a southpaw and orthodox who both like to come forward, the exact same happened in SSR vs Gonzalez 1.
                  For me what Horn did was no different to what Shawn Porter usually does regularly.
                  I'm just gonna disagree with you cuz, when the fight was allowed to take place in the center of the ring Horn wasn't doing shhh if he had been warned about leading with his head he would've had to fight apart without bullrushing and that again was his poison but alas it didn't and he got a win.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                    He dominated (i.e controlled the fight from start to finish, whilst winning nearly every round) the fight against Broner and comfortably beat a 140lb champion in Lipinets. But according to you “hasn’t done **** at 140”.🤣🤣
                    As I said you are being bias or ignorant.
                    so he beat broner and lipinets and now he's the king of 140? the fcvk??? yes, he hasnt done shiiet at 140 for me to say he'll beat pac at 140. this is MY opinion. you think broner or lipinets would have beaten pac too???

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by WesternChamp
                      so he beat broner and lipinets and now he's the king of 140? the fcvk??? yes, he hasnt done shiiet at 140 for me to say he'll beat pac at 140. this is MY opinion. you think broner or lipinets would have beaten pac too???
                      That’s completely irrelevant it’s like saying: Would Horn beat Mikey??🤣🤣
                      I didn’t say he’s the king at 140 but he probably is the best fighter in the division. Who at 140 has a better win or resume than Garcia?
                      If you think Mikey genuinely “hasn’t done **** at 140” you are seriously deluded.
                      I can’t take what you’re saying seriously anymore. We’re done here.

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