Comments Thread For: Erik Morales, Francisco Vargas Back Canelo: He is The Victim Here!

[Removed Now]

“Bad” for the athlete because they could test positive.

But the meat with roids is actually high quality meat. Better taste, less fat on the meat, which is the point, nobody wants a slab of fat for a steak.

I try to lay off meat for health reasons. But eating roids doesn't seem like it's good for the kids. There's no organic options at all in Mexico?

[Kcvtr81]

Absolutely disgusting behavior going on, canelo got popped with test results of 0.08 and 0.06 each clen tab is 0.02 the cows would have to be eating nothing but clen for results like that

[chrisJS]

Drug cheats?

Read this parte piece of sh.it

"The bad thing is that in the sports world we are the ones who are affected, because there is no control on the part of the authorities and that the rest of the world cares little. I had to leave Mexico after the positive test. I had more than 10 tests and in all I came out clean."

Read, animal, more than 10 tests and in all he came out clean.

Any amount of Clenbuterol is doping, says WADA

'This is just the dopers adjusting or mis-adjusting to the testing'
Alberto Contador's lawyers will need to re-think their Tour de France doping defence. A WADA official reminded them that an athlete with any amount of the drug Clenbuterol is considered positive.

"Just because it's small doesn't mean it's not doping," WADA's Christiane Ayotte told the New York Times. "This is just the dopers adjusting or mis-adjusting to the testing."

Ayotte runs the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) lab outside of Montreal. She commented on the recent cases of athletes testing positive for small amounts of Clenbuterol. The drug helps breathing and weight loss.

Recent cases:
- China's Fuyu Li: 50-100 picograms
- Italy's Alessandro Colò: 200 picograms
- Spain's Alberto Contador: 50 picograms
- Germany's Dimitrij Ovtcharov: 75 picograms
- Mexico's Saul "Canelo" Alvarez: 600-800 piocgrams

Cyclists Li and Colò both received suspensions from their federations. Germany acquitted table tennis player Ovtcharov, but WADA has since appealed the decision. All of the athletes argued that the Clenbuterol came from eating contaminated beef.

The WADA lists Clenbuterol as a banned substance regardless of how it was ingested. Contador maintains his innocence and claims that the beef that his Astana team bought in Irún, Spain, caused the positive result.

Link: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/66...says-WADA.aspx

Here is Canelo, 2 failed tests in 3 days:


0.6-0.8 nanogram = 600-800 picograms

It is alarming how the media tries to fool the public by calling it "Just traces" and alot of people just fall for it. All the previously mentioned athletes had much less Clenbuterol in their samples and yet got suspended, you have to wonder how much meat Canelo must have eaten to have 12-14 times the amount of Clenbuterol in his system?

In an article from GQ 18 months ago Canelo claimed that he wouldnt eat any red meat during training camp:

The Real-Life Diet of Canelo Álvarez, Who Can't Eat Much

Still, boxing has one huge piece of prep work that’s easy to forget about: staying in your weight class. Weight is everything in boxing, and maintaining that number is a slog. “I eat bread only once a week,” says Saúl “Canelo” Álvarez via a translator, “or maybe a serving of rice. But no more than once a week.”

Breakfast
Egg whites with ham and orange juice

Lunch
Chicken with carrots, squash, broccoli and cauliflower

Snacks
Apples, cucumbers, g****s, jicama

Dinner
Protein shake with no carbs

read more: https://www.gq.com/story/canelo-alvarez-real-life-diet

The New York Times’s Juliet Macur, reporting on the Contador case, wrote the following in Sept 2010:

“Fernando Ramos, a professor at the University of Coimbra in Portugal who has studied clenbuterol contamination in meat for 20 years, said it was highly unlikely that Contador tested positive from eating meat other than liver, noting that the concentration would have to be so high that the animal would have died before being slaughtered.

“When asked what the chances were that Contador’s positive test, even at such low levels, was a result of the meat he ate, Ramos said, 'I can say 99% it's impossible'.

Ramos says it’s possible to ingest detectable amounts of clenbuterol from livestock—but only if you eat the liver of the animal, “where clenbuterol is known to accumulate.” And then you would get terribly ill.".

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/01/sp...ontador&st=cse

I think I'll trust solid and reputable sources, actual facts and references over a fan boy or two fighters that got busted. in 2018 this excuse doesn't fly or are you going to say despite Canelo confirming he doesn't eat beef in training that he had so much beef liver than the 1/100 chance of it showing in his urine came true and it was 10x the amount of the amount cyclists who doped? Why does he need that much beef liver?

Or are you going to just believe this fighter who earns $10-20m in his fights and surely has ways of obtaining non contaminated beef liver and has defeated 1/100 odds of having it in his urine? Coming from a guy who pleads the innocence of Nery (drugs and skipping weight), Salido (drugs and skipping weight), Margarito (hand wraps) but calls out corruption when a Mexican fighter loses a close (and fair) decision I think you'll just ignore any red flag and deny any wrongdoing. So Mexican fighters don't have to test clean and weigh in but other fighters do? You see how ****** you look?

[Madison Boxing]

He cheated. Canelo doesn't even eat beef according to his diet plans.

[chrisJS]

He cheated. Canelo doesn't even eat beef according to his diet plans.

Give Canelo a break. His reputation is at steak!

[Mexican_Puppet]

I think I'll trust solid and reputable sources, actual facts and references over a fan boy or two fighters that got busted. in 2018 this excuse doesn't fly or are you going to say despite Canelo confirming he doesn't eat beef in training that he had so much beef liver than the 1/100 chance of it showing in his urine came true and it was 10x the amount of the amount cyclists who doped? Why does he need that much beef liver?

Or are you going to just believe this fighter who earns $10-20m in his fights and surely has ways of obtaining non contaminated beef liver and has defeated 1/100 odds of having it in his urine? Coming from a guy who pleads the innocence of Nery (drugs and skipping weight), Salido (drugs and skipping weight), Margarito (hand wraps) but calls out corruption when a Mexican fighter loses a close (and fair) decision I think you'll just ignore any red flag and deny any wrongdoing. So Mexican fighters don't have to test clean and weigh in but other fighters do? You see how ****** you look?

Are you stu.pid? I never said anything about the cases of Margarito. And in the case of Nery he destroyed Yamanaka without an advantage in weight and showed that his power was real?

You are a poor idiot, you can't compare cyclism with boxing, since cyclism is the SPORT with more cases of dopings and Contador doesnt live in a country with problems with the contaminated meat like México.

You are a poor idiot too because you don't know that the same WADA said that the problem in México and China is big, so the cases deserves be investigated in a special way.

Compare cyclism with boxing is totally ******.

[IllmasterPriest]

Someone needs to go down to Mexico and randomly test some meat samples.

If this is truly an epidemic in the country then I don't see why Canelo should be blamed. He is telling the truth.

But shouldn't he be blamed for negligence for even eating the Mexican beef? He's a high paid professional boxer, why wouldn't he order beef from somewhere else KNOWING Mexico had this problem? NFL players get suspended for asthma medicine WITH prescription. When I watch HBO 24 he's always training in San Diego, am I wrong?

[Mexican_Puppet]

I think I'll trust solid and reputable sources, actual facts and references over a fan boy or two fighters that got busted. in 2018 this excuse doesn't fly or are you going to say despite Canelo confirming he doesn't eat beef in training that he had so much beef liver than the 1/100 chance of it showing in his urine came true and it was 10x the amount of the amount cyclists who doped? Why does he need that much beef liver?

Or are you going to just believe this fighter who earns $10-20m in his fights and surely has ways of obtaining non contaminated beef liver and has defeated 1/100 odds of having it in his urine? Coming from a guy who pleads the innocence of Nery (drugs and skipping weight), Salido (drugs and skipping weight), Margarito (hand wraps) but calls out corruption when a Mexican fighter loses a close (and fair) decision I think you'll just ignore any red flag and deny any wrongdoing. So Mexican fighters don't have to test clean and weigh in but other fighters do? You see how ****** you look?

You are totally a idiot.

Boxers are humans, animal, humans, there is a video of GGG eating like 50 pounds of horse meat in a restaurant with his Friends in Kazajistán.

When a boxer is resting, and he is not in a training camp, regularly eat so much. Thats the reason why they always are in other weight .

They are humans, you are totally ****** thinking that a boxer have to be a vegan all the days of the year?

It's not the problem of Canelo that his country is a sh.it with a lot of mafia in all the things.

Of fact, Vargas had the same problem, then he was living in USA and never had the same problem with the meat and was negative in 10 tests.

Why you don't say anything about that case, jerk?

[Mexican_Puppet]

But shouldn't he be blamed for negligence for even eating the Mexican beef? He's a high paid professional boxer, why wouldn't he order beef from somewhere else KNOWING Mexico had this problem? NFL players get suspended for asthma medicine WITH prescription. When I watch HBO 24 he's always training in San Diego, am I wrong?

Negligence? Jajajaja.

Is a human!

NFL playera doesnt live in México, Canelo does. He lives here.

Now the boxers have to be vegans all the ****ing days of the year?

[PeasantCrusha]

AHAHAHAHAHA.



Damn buncha fake warriors...

PEDs Plaster Piss drinking peasants....