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  • #11
    Originally posted by Vinnykin View Post
    Ortiz is no bum, but you have to call a spade a spade, the guy hasn't looked good for 2 years and has been inactive and fighting bums himself..... no legit ranking would ever have him top 5 going by his level of opposition and inactivity.... that's just a fact....

    I'll argue with any one calling him a bum, and I'll argue with any one making out he is some kind of killer and the boogeyman of the division.....
    Well said. Ortiz is old and inactive. Regardless of power and skill, you have to wonder what he’ll bring tomorrow night. Wilder hasn’t been very active himself, so it might balance out somewhat. Won’t be long before we find out.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by P4Pdunny View Post
      good fight, I can see Ortiz outfoxing Wilder but getting caught with something. Also, can see Wilder folding from an Ortiz counter punch? Can't wait.
      Ortiz is the number 3 guy to defeat unless he defeats Wilder which makes him #2 .

      People are gullible if they think the other guys , Parker , Povetkin are more dangerous . They cant seem to grasp that age doesnt dictate outcomes . Even if Ortiz or Wilder lost ,how does that indicate that Parker beats them? Makes ZERO sense .

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      • #13
        Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
        " I'll argue with any one making out he is some kind of killer "

        You already lost that argument !
        So this inactive fighter who has looked like **** for 2 years is some kind of killer.... are you seriously saying that?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
          Ortiz is the number 3 guy to defeat unless he defeats Wilder which makes him #2 .

          People are gullible if they think the other guys , Parker , Povetkin are more dangerous . They cant seem to grasp that age doesnt dictate outcomes . Even if Ortiz or Wilder lost ,how does that indicate that Parker beats them? Makes ZERO sense .
          I bet you thought Stiverne was top 5 as well because he had a belt lol

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          • #15
            Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
            Well said. Ortiz is old and inactive. Regardless of power and skill, you have to wonder what he’ll bring tomorrow night. Wilder hasn’t been very active himself, so it might balance out somewhat. Won’t be long before we find out.
            Exactly, with other top HW's I can at least have some idea of how they will perform over a 12 round fight at the top level, with Ortiz I have no idea how he will look going into the second half of the fight, if his timing is still the same, he might look as good as he did against Jennings but he might look like ****.

            Any one claiming they know what they are going to get from Ortiz or if he is still a top HW are lying.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Vinnykin View Post
              I bet you thought Stiverne was top 5 as well because he had a belt lol
              As usual you would lose !

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              • #17
                Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                As usual you would lose !
                You can't just claim victory without arguing you man-child

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Vinnykin View Post
                  So this inactive fighter who has looked like **** for 2 years is some kind of killer.... are you seriously saying that?
                  Im saying a 6'4 235 /240 southpaw whos never lost rnds would be favorite over a guy with 3 questionable wins up too this point who is much better skilled all around and hits harder. Ortiz just fought ,to claim hes inactive if also false .

                  I completely dominated you on this topic before why go there when i'll just bump that thread ?
                  Last edited by juggernaut666; 03-02-2018, 11:19 AM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Vinnykin View Post
                    You can't just claim victory without arguing you man-child
                    Im pretty sure you lost the Klitchko fight AFTER telling me how little i knew ....if thats not a win what is ?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Vinnykin View Post
                      I bet you thought Stiverne was top 5 as well because he had a belt lol
                      stirverne beat arreola not once but twice. surely thats worthy of being ranked #2

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