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    #61
    Wilder the bum getting dropped hard on his ass by a journeyman with 20 losses who weighed 205lbs Harold Sconiers.....The most protected fighter in boxing exposed. [/IMG]

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    • Tyistall
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      #62
      I never said I didn't want to see the fight. I simply said that Wilder is not that good. And he damn sure shouldn't be asking for the fight to be 50/50 when he cannot even sell out Barclays. And Ortiz and Povetken are two boxers out of hundreds that Wilder could have chosen from. Why did he chose Washington? Arreola? Szpilka? Duhaupas? You guys act like all the other boxers did not want to fight him or something? He never called out Klitschko like he is calling out AJ. He was never going to go to England to fight Whyte for what would have been the highest payday ever for him. And for him to say that he's been calling out AJ for years is laughable because AJ hasn't really been fighting that long. Just 3 years or so. You guys believe anything someone like Wilder says but you don't do your own thinking about it. AJ has 3 belts, soon to be 4, and he has mandatories which means he will probably fight Povetken next and that will make about 5 guys in a row that he's fought that are better than anything Wilder has on is record hahahah. SWo like I said, I'd love to watch this fight but Wilder is acting a foll about it.

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      • Santa_
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        #63
        Of course not.

        "Ortiz two hundred and eleven years old doe"

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        • Sid-Knee
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          #64
          Originally posted by Dr.Cool
          They aren't called critics, they are called haters or AJ fanboys. AJ is the only other hw that is any good but he is still running scared of Wilder. The haters don't matter, they know they are scared for AJ and so they make excuses to avoid Wilder. If they thought Wilder was really so easy, they would be begging their idol AJ to fight him and shut him up. Instead AJ and his fans are like, no he doesn't deserve a unification fight. Miller and Takam do, but not Wilder.

          Wilder and AJ are clearly the top two hws. They need to fight. Wilder wants to and AJ doesn't. I don't care about either Wilder-Ortiz or AJ-Parker everyone with a brain already knows Wilder and AJ will both win. I want to see the best fight the best. Wilder has tried to make fights with Wlad, Tyson Fury, AJ, Parker, and even went to Russia to fight Povetkin (though once Povetkin realized what he was in for, he took peds to get out of the fight).

          Wilder is the most avoided man in boxing. He has the WBC belt, yet Fury, AJ, Parker, Povetkin do not want it. Fury wants Haye, Parker wanted Hughie and now his handing his belt over to AJ for however much, Povetkin is still using peds and training in Siberia, and Fury is busy is playing dress up while all coked out.

          The most avoided man in boxing is back in action tomorrow night. He is more exciting than G ever was, and next to Spence is the most exciting boxer today. He will destroy Ortiz and the haters will continue to hate.
          You don't need to be a hater to know that Wilder has had it easy his whole career. Nothing but bums. And he struggled against some of them. Throw in the fact that he talks the biggest load of **** and you have someone who isn't going to be seen as someone to follow.

          You talk just like Wilder, you're a clown. AJ isn't scared in any way you complete nutter. Wilder is still holding on to his 50/50 or no fight. That means negotiations have clearly ended until Wilder starts to see sense. I don't hold much hope.

          Wilder made a claim a couple of years ago that he wouldn't fight Wlad until 2017 so he ages a bit more. The video is on YT. Check it out.

          When did Fury duck Wilder?? These are the reasons why Wilder and his fans are seen as scum of the earth. You just make up a load of bull**** out of thin air. You're deluded just like him. You deserve each other.

          Wilder didn't set foot in Russia. He was in England. Nothing you clowns say have any ring of truth to it what so ever.
          As soon as Wilder heard about Povetkin failing a test, he was out of there like a shot. He didn't hang round to see if anything could be salvaged, he heard what he wanted to hear, and ran. Wilder never wanted to go to Russia in the first place. Only when his side lost the purse bid did he change his tune. All this can be found on YT to expose your lies.

          I hope Wilder loses tomorrow just so you clowns can shut the **** up. The delusion and the lies have got so crazy now that I don't care who deals with him just that he gets dealt with in the way he deserves. Wilder and his fans are clearly the biggest nut-jobs in boxing.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Tyistall
            I never said I didn't want to see the fight. I simply said that Wilder is not that good. And he damn sure shouldn't be asking for the fight to be 50/50 when he cannot even sell out Barclays. And Ortiz and Povetken are two boxers out of hundreds that Wilder could have chosen from. Why did he chose Washington? Arreola? Szpilka? Duhaupas? You guys act like all the other boxers did not want to fight him or something? He never called out Klitschko like he is calling out AJ. He was never going to go to England to fight Whyte for what would have been the highest payday ever for him. And for him to say that he's been calling out AJ for years is laughable because AJ hasn't really been fighting that long. Just 3 years or so. You guys believe anything someone like Wilder says but you don't do your own thinking about it. AJ has 3 belts, soon to be 4, and he has mandatories which means he will probably fight Povetken next and that will make about 5 guys in a row that he's fought that are better than anything Wilder has on is record hahahah. SWo like I said, I'd love to watch this fight but Wilder is acting a foll about it.
            Yeah, repeat a lot of things that have been debunked. The 50/50 thing was all talk, and isn't even the talk anymore, like I have already said. What fighter is really better than these? Whyte? Breazeale? Give me a break. And like I said, there wasn't time back then, he has been coexisting with Joshua at least the double of that time. You really think he isn't going for Whyte next? Now he has better name to fight, give the due time and it will happen. Do you think I believe in every word of anyone? And no, it's not Wilder who is chasing Miller and HBO to duck this fight, it's Hearn

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            • Dr.Cool
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              #66
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee
              You don't need to be a hater to know that Wilder has had it easy his whole career. Nothing but bums. And he struggled against some of them. Throw in the fact that he talks the biggest load of **** and you have someone who isn't going to be seen as someone to follow.

              You talk just like Wilder, you're a clown. AJ isn't scared in any way you complete nutter. Wilder is still holding on to his 50/50 or no fight. That means negotiations have clearly ended until Wilder starts to see sense. I don't hold much hope.

              Wilder made a claim a couple of years ago that he wouldn't fight Wlad until 2017 so he ages a bit more. The video is on YT. Check it out.

              When did Fury duck Wilder?? These are the reasons why Wilder and his fans are seen as scum of the earth. You just make up a load of bull**** out of thin air. You're deluded just like him. You deserve each other.

              Wilder didn't set foot in Russia. He was in England. Nothing you clowns say have any ring of truth to it what so ever.
              As soon as Wilder heard about Povetkin failing a test, he was out of there like a shot. He didn't hang round to see if anything could be salvaged, he heard what he wanted to hear, and ran. Wilder never wanted to go to Russia in the first place. Only when his side lost the purse bid did he change his tune. All this can be found on YT to expose your lies.

              I hope Wilder loses tomorrow just so you clowns can shut the **** up. The delusion and the lies have got so crazy now that I don't care who deals with him just that he gets dealt with in the way he deserves. Wilder and his fans are clearly the biggest nut-jobs in boxing.
              Yes, Wilder has had it easy. That is because other than AJ there are absolutely no other even halfway-decent hw's. He is a heavyweight champion who has knocked out everyone he has fought as a pro. AJ and Hearn themselves have admitted they have refused to negotiate with Wilder thus far. Hearn said fight Whyte and then AJ. Wilder said ok, and Hearn disappeared.

              Use google. Wilder called out Fury for years. Fury refused and refused to face him. Wilder has called out Parker. Parker also "demanded" more than he is getting. That is why it is called negotiation. But even though Parker made unrealistic demands, AJ still negotiated with him. But he won't do that for Wilder. In fact, he has admitted he wants to fight Miller.

              Where do you rank Wilder has a heavyweight? There is no possible way for any unbiased person to not have him in the top two. Everyone knows this. And just like the other AJ fanboys, you are making excuses for AJ to avoid Wilder. If Wilder is such a bum, then AJ would fight him immediately. It would pay AJ millions more than anyone else. AJ could win the WBC belt. AJ would cement himself alone atop the heavyweights. But no, AJ and his fans don't want him to do that. They hope and pray some fat, old bum will beat Wilder so AJ doesn't have to fight him. Sorry it isn't going to happen. Wilder is calling out AJ. AJ and Hearn are talking about Miller, Fury, anyone and everyone not named Wilder. Wilder should be fighting Whyte (who is probably better than Ortiz in reality) tomorrow and AJ after that. Especially when AJ is fighting just two weeks later. Wilder offered that and Hearn and AJ went into hiding.

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              • Sid-Knee
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                #67
                Originally posted by Dr.Cool
                Yes, Wilder has had it easy. That is because other than AJ there are absolutely no other even halfway-decent hw's. He is a heavyweight champion who has knocked out everyone he has fought as a pro. AJ and Hearn themselves have admitted they have refused to negotiate with Wilder thus far. Hearn said fight Whyte and then AJ. Wilder said ok, and Hearn disappeared.

                Use google. Wilder called out Fury for years. Fury refused and refused to face him. Wilder has called out Parker. Parker also "demanded" more than he is getting. That is why it is called negotiation. But even though Parker made unrealistic demands, AJ still negotiated with him. But he won't do that for Wilder. In fact, he has admitted he wants to fight Miller.

                Where do you rank Wilder has a heavyweight? There is no possible way for any unbiased person to not have him in the top two. Everyone knows this. And just like the other AJ fanboys, you are making excuses for AJ to avoid Wilder. If Wilder is such a bum, then AJ would fight him immediately. It would pay AJ millions more than anyone else. AJ could win the WBC belt. AJ would cement himself alone atop the heavyweights. But no, AJ and his fans don't want him to do that. They hope and pray some fat, old bum will beat Wilder so AJ doesn't have to fight him. Sorry it isn't going to happen. Wilder is calling out AJ. AJ and Hearn are talking about Miller, Fury, anyone and everyone not named Wilder. Wilder should be fighting Whyte (who is probably better than Ortiz in reality) tomorrow and AJ after that. Especially when AJ is fighting just two weeks later. Wilder offered that and Hearn and AJ went into hiding.
                Heavyweights that are decent or better...

                Ruiz
                H Fury
                Pulev
                Whyte
                Parker
                Takem
                Brezeale

                Wilder hasn't fought any of them. It's only now that's he's stepping up against Ortiz. With 39 fights in your career, that's a joke. Don't try and paint it any other way.

                Hearn hasn't refused to negotiate with Wilder at all. Stop lying. You Americans do come up with some serious bull**** don't you.

                You can't have the AJ fight included in the Wyhte contract, that's insane. If you can't see the problems with that then I really don't know what to tell you.

                Wilder calls everybody out. It means absolutely nothing. He's fought nothing but bums. And that's how Wilder likes it.

                Actually, AJ can make a lot more money fighting others. They wouldn't demand such a huge chunk as Wilder would. So no, AJ won't earn more money with Wilder.

                AJ, Parker and Wilder are the top 3 heavies. However, AJ and Parker have done more than Wilder has.

                Have you seen anybody say they don't want the AJ/Wilder fight?? No you haven't. Of course people want that fight. But it's not going to be made unless Wilder moves from his "50/50 or no fight" stance. Quite simple really.

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                • Vinnykin
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                  #68
                  If Wilder puts on a boxing clinic and Ko's Ortiz clean I will give him props, just like I did Joshua after I said Klitschko would beat him! ..... what I won't have is an old Ortix not having a fight in 2 years and then getting KO'd by Wilder being some beast and top 3 HW.... **** that.... and **** all of you that think Ortiz is the same fighter he was 2 years ago (even then you were guessing as Jennings wasn't even that good!)

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