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  • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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    #31
    Originally posted by Sir_Didymus


    LMFAO!! O...K
    😂😂😂 Says it all.
    He’s a quitter. Who’s fought 3 good fighters in his career, won a very close decision vs Porter that could’ve went the other way. Then lost convincingly to both GGG and Spence.

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    • Elroy The Great
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      #32
      the only stat that should matter is how a guy does vs the best of the div.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Sid-Knee
        Well he didn't lose when he stepped up to Porter.

        If he hadn't of gone up in weight and drained himself by coming back down, he would have beat Spence as well.

        Spence only won 1 round of the first 6 on my card. Brook was having it pretty easy in there. But when he went into the later stages, he just didn't have enough juice left in the tank. So Spence was lucky. Also the eye injury played a massive part as well.
        He did beat Porter by a round and he clinched an average of 14 times per round.

        Also he didn't have it easy against Spence. He was getting worked and broken down as the fight went.

        All I here is excuses, when he said himself that he was in great shape for the Spence fight and not this BS.

        I guess Spence's punches had nothing to do with his lost.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Chrismart
          He's ok in my book. There's guys out here who didn't want to fight GGG or Spence, Brook fought them both. One above his weight division, and the other coming of a bad injury.
          That is the one thing that I give him, despite his previous opponents he did step it up against two feared fighters. Spence was still questionable at the time but proved he is the real thing.

          I will not take that away from Brook.

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            #35
            Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
            He did beat Porter by a round and he clinched an average of 14 times per round.

            Also he didn't have it easy against Spence. He was getting worked and broken down as the fight went.

            All I here is excuses, when he said himself that he was in great shape for the Spence fight and not this BS.

            I guess Spence's punches had nothing to do with his lost.
            Brook beat Porter 9 rounds to 3 on my card. Nothing close about that fight. Porter was ineffective because Brook is just a superior boxer.

            Oh, and Brook tied him up in close because Porter kept overthrowing his shots and coming in with his head. What Brook did was smart.

            I said Brook had it easy in the first half when he had juice in the tank. After the first half, the weight drain was going to come into it. That's why I picked Spence to win.

            Fighters say a lot of things that aren't true. I mean, how many fighters have you heard say they felt like **** and had no chance of winning the fight? Exactly.

            Spence's punches did play a part, but it most certainly isn't the whole story. You just want the American to have all this praise heaped upon him without looking at the clear advantages he had in the fight. If Brook was American, i'm sure you'd change your tune sharpish.

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              #36
              so what? hes fought spence and golovkin back to back, and people forget there was some serious porter hype after he bulldozed malignaggi. funny how hes a laughing stock for stepping up two weights and losing to golovkin, and then fighting the guy noone else wants to fight in spence and giving him hell until the last couple of rounds (although that fights been revised into a complete beatdown on here). whether he was moved slowly or not, when the tough fights were offered to him, he stepped up. Most fighters protect their 0 at all costs, not fight a monster two weights up from himself. Although i remember people at that time ****ting on him by saying hes 'cashing out'...

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                #37
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                Brook beat Porter 9 rounds to 3 on my card. Nothing close about that fight. Porter was ineffective because Brook is just a superior boxer.

                Oh, and Brook tied him up in close because Porter kept overthrowing his shots and coming in with his head. What Brook did was smart.

                I said Brook had it easy in the first half when he had juice in the tank. After the first half, the weight drain was going to come into it. That's why I picked Spence to win.

                Fighters say a lot of things that aren't true. I mean, how many fighters have you heard say they felt like **** and had no chance of winning the fight? Exactly.

                Spence's punches did play a part, but it most certainly isn't the whole story. You just want the American to have all this praise heaped upon him without looking at the clear advantages he had in the fight. If Brook was American, i'm sure you'd change your tune sharpish.
                Now you just made up that I wanted the American to do this and that. Wrong, when Manny and Floyd where the top guys I kept on saying when is Brook gonna get in the mix. He consistently fought low level opposition.

                I mention that he did beat Porter and it was a MD. Now you are putting words in my mouth that I am favoring the American.

                If AJ and Wilder ever fight I favor AJ because of his skills.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                  Now you just made up that I wanted the American to do this and that. Wrong, when Manny and Floyd where the top guys I kept on saying when is Brook gonna get in the mix. He consistently fought low level opposition.

                  I mention that he did beat Porter and it was a MD. Now you are putting words in my mouth that I am favoring the American.

                  If AJ and Wilder ever fight I favor AJ because of his skills.
                  Brook couldn't get in the mix because nobody was willing to unify, so he had to fight his mandatories or be stripped of the title. Spence is going through the same problems now, so what have you got to say for that? I'm sure you won't throw the same comments towards Spence as many Americans kept throwing at Brook.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                    Brook couldn't get in the mix because nobody was willing to unify, so he had to fight his mandatories or be stripped of the title. Spence is going through the same problems now, so what have you got to say for that? I'm sure you won't throw the same comments towards Spence as many Americans kept throwing at Brook.
                    Before he didn't have mando. After Porter he was scheduled to fight Chaves and didn't happen. They negotiated for Vargas, didn't happened. But any low level fighter got done right away.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                      Before he didn't have mando. After Porter he was scheduled to fight Chaves and didn't happen. They negotiated for Vargas, didn't happened. But any low level fighter got done right away.
                      You're ****ing boring me now...

                      Chaves fight didn't happen because Kell got injured. They tried to redo the fight but the IBF had already set a date for his next mandatory so there wouldn't have been enough time in between fights for that to work. Had he have fought Chaves, there would have been less than 3 months before he was due back in the ring. Nothing they could do.

                      Brook was looking for a big fight/unification because he was sick and tired of fighting just mandatories. No one would fight other than Vargas, so they went in that direction. They made a big offer but it was denied by Vargas. He asked for more money even though his own team said it was a very generous offer.

                      Brook and Hearn were bent over a barrel because they wanted a big fight but had no where to go. The fans were calling for him to fight the best so they were in a bit of a pickle. In order to fight Vargas Brook would have had to take a big pay cut and would have made considerably less than Vargas even though he was the clear A side. However, GGG was meant to fight Eubank but pulled out so Hearn had him there for a date in the UK. Instead of paying that ***** Vargas over the odds and Hearn losing money on the event, he asked Kell if he wanted to fight GGG instead for a big pay day. Brook agreed and took the fight. The rest is history.

                      The offer to Vargas was over double his biggest pay day. For him to deny that offer and ask for more shows you that he really didn't want the fight unless he got a retirement cheque. Brook was most certainly not the one who ****ed that up. Blame Vargas for asking for too much money.
                      Last edited by Sid-Knee; 03-02-2018, 08:58 PM.

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