Pac Vs Matt, leads to this

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I don't see Bob matching up Manny with anyone, on ESPN, Showtime or PPV, that isn't a TR contracted fighter at this stage of Manny's career when he could lose to a lot of guys. Anyone getting the rub from a Manny W will be TR or won't even get the fight in the first place. Bob will have Manny sit out the rest of his contract before he'd agree to have him fight a non-TR guy I feel like.

Maybe if Thurman signs a deal with TR that would give Bob options on 2 or 3 of his fights it'd be doable, but beyond something like that its not happening. And even if that is in the cards it won't be in the cards til Manny's notched another L or two to TR guys. Most notably Crawford who Bob needs to boost up by letting him get that Manny win.

Can't teach an old dog new tricks & Arum is an old a$$ dog.

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I don't see Bob matching up Manny with anyone, on ESPN, Showtime or PPV, that isn't a TR contracted fighter at this stage of Manny's career when he could lose to a lot of guys. Anyone getting the rub from a Manny W will be TR or won't even get the fight in the first place. Bob will have Manny sit out the rest of his contract before he'd agree to have him fight a non-TR guy I feel like.

Maybe if Thurman signs a deal with TR that would give Bob options on 2 or 3 of his fights it'd be doable, but beyond something like that its not happening. And even if that is in the cards it won't be in the cards til Manny's notched another L or two to TR guys. Most notably Crawford who Bob needs to boost up by letting him get that Manny win.

Can't teach an old dog new tricks & Arum is an old a$$ dog.

Keith isn’t signing with TR. no options on fights, unless, u bring Crawford into play...after Pac. That opens the door to Bud vs Keith which is hard to see made without the kinda pac situation we r talking about

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I think you're overestimating Thurman's popularity, and drawing ability with a PPV model.

I think Thurman wouldn't draw any better than Crawford.


Hell, a rematch with Horn in Australia could very well be the best option money-wise.

I disagree based on regular tv ratings, per Neilson Media. Why PPV the fight instead of having on tv with 5-10 million viewers ( hypothetically ) advertisers and sponsors would eat that shlt up

[john l]

If pac fights Matts for the WBA secondary title, it’d put him in line to fight Keef in the fall. I know that we have political issues, but I do believe that Bob would work it out. Sad but true, if PAC gets WBA world then he’s Keff’s new mando. Bob nor anyone else can deny, that move would put PAC in place for his highest possible pay day before retiring. Plus on the PBC side, Keith needs a good opponent after his tune up. Shlt, they both still draw crowds, which in turn makes $$$. I can see Bob knowing that would put way more cheddar than pac vs Loma or Bud or Horn. It actually helps both sides of the politics

Not gonna happen Bob already said no to matt and Thruman is cnot fightin on ESPN so unless Pac leaves Arum I cant see how this takes place.

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Keith isn’t signing with TR. no options on fights, unless, u bring Crawford into play...after Pac. That opens the door to Bud vs Keith which is hard to see made without the kinda pac situation we r talking about

I don't disagree. It ain't happening. This isn't how Arum does business.

I mean can someone name the 50/50 fights or fights where his fighter was the dog that he's made where he let his name brand guy fight a non-TR guy on or off whatever platform Bob was on at that time? Bob would want options worse case.

Only two fights I can think of off the top of my head is Floyd vs Manny which was for insane money so that made sense. And Manny vs Oscar which was a gamble at the time to fight the biggest name in the game still & put Manny on another level so that made sense. I'm not sure I can think of many more notable fights like that & I think Manny was the dog in both those fights, but the juice was worth the squeeze.

Manny's a namebrand now. There's no reason to gamble with the rub he'll give the guys who'll beat him. I mean look at all the cats talking about sh^tty a$$ Horn these days off that Manny win. A W over Manny is a valuable commodity.

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I don't disagree. It ain't happening. This isn't how Arum does business.

I mean can someone name the 50/50 fights or fights where his fighter was the dog that he's made where he let his name brand guy fight a non-TR guy on or off whatever platform Bob was on at that time? Bob would want options worse case.

Only two fights I can think of off the top of my head is Floyd vs Manny which was for insane money so that made sense. And Manny vs Oscar which was a gamble at the time to fight the biggest name in the game still & put Manny on another level so that made sense. I'm not sure I can think of many more notable fights like that & I think Manny was the dog in both those fights, but the juice was worth the squeeze.

Manny's a namebrand now. There's no reason to gamble with the rub he'll give the guys who'll beat him. I mean look at all the cats talking about sh^tty a$$ Horn these days off that Manny win. A W over Manny is a valuable commodity.

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